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They’re adding vibecoded shortcuts (the high level scripting for Apple devices). Hopefully that means they worked out some of the long-existing bugs and missing

by arijun 4mo ago

They’re adding vibecoded shortcuts (the high level scripting for Apple devices). Hopefully that means they worked out some of the long-existing bugs and missing features, but I’m not optimistic. Still, could be a useful tool, especially for less tech-literate people.

seaal 4mo ago
Just updated to see if I could make a shortcut to toggle `Reduced White Point` accessibility shortcut. "Try describing something different for the shortcut." I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it still doesn't work.
- iknowstuff 4mo ago
  Lol that sucks. But FYI you can set it to a triple press of the power button.
- cgearhart 4mo ago
  I just tested this myself. I wrote “flip the reduce white point toggle accessibility option in the settings app” and it worked perfectly. Run once to set it and run again to disable it.
jameshart 4mo ago
It increases the value app developers might get out of offering shortcut actions - similar to how the advent of MCPs seems to have kicked a bunch of SaaS vendors into offering a clean API, the advent of Siri being able to tap into shortcut actions - and script them - might make it feel more worthwhile to app devs to open up deep functions.
zzyzxd 4mo ago
If they are ok with shortcuts being vibecoded, maybe it's time to expose a proper programming language to the end users as well. All my automation shortcuts can be easily explained in pseudo code under 5 minutes, but it took me ages to put them together because that weird UI/UX forcing me to drag-and-drop squares around to manipulate data structures. Programmers hate it, non-programmers can't understand it, it is not designed for anybody.
- bronco21016 4mo ago
  100%. It’s accessible to only the truly stubborn among us who have no other option available to make things just work.
- kalleboo 4mo ago
  It's funny how they went from AppleScript -> "oh writing scripts is too complicated for users, let's create Automator" -> "Automator is too simple, let's create Shortcuts" -> now with shortcuts being generated by language models they need a structured scripting language again. AppleScript even had "dictionaries" declaring their commands and everything, would have been perfect way teach LLMs how to automate applications.
  - bobbylarrybobby 4mo ago
    The original MCP!
- nozzlegear 4mo ago
  You can write AppleScript in JavaScript, a much better language than applescript itself. Neither are usable outside of macOS ofc
- archagon 4mo ago
  I've never been more frustrated programming something than when I tried to build a non-trivial Shortcut. Things that I could have expressed in a quick script took me literal hours to compose and debug using the WYSIWYG interface. And since there's no version control, any mistake runs the risk of dislocating an element or messing up an input/output connection and breaking everything permanently.
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ex-aws-dude 4mo ago
How long until they allow sandboxed vibecoded apps? Seems like the logical next step

by arijun 4mo ago

seaal 4mo ago

Just updated to see if I could make a shortcut to toggle `Reduced White Point` accessibility shortcut. "Try describing something different for the shortcut." I guess I shouldn't be surprised that it still doesn't work.

iknowstuff 4mo ago
Lol that sucks. But FYI you can set it to a triple press of the power button.
cgearhart 4mo ago
I just tested this myself. I wrote “flip the reduce white point toggle accessibility option in the settings app” and it worked perfectly. Run once to set it and run again to disable it.

jameshart 4mo ago

It increases the value app developers might get out of offering shortcut actions - similar to how the advent of MCPs seems to have kicked a bunch of SaaS vendors into offering a clean API, the advent of Siri being able to tap into shortcut actions - and script them - might make it feel more worthwhile to app devs to open up deep functions.

zzyzxd 4mo ago

If they are ok with shortcuts being vibecoded, maybe it's time to expose a proper programming language to the end users as well. All my automation shortcuts can be easily explained in pseudo code under 5 minutes, but it took me ages to put them together because that weird UI/UX forcing me to drag-and-drop squares around to manipulate data structures. Programmers hate it, non-programmers can't understand it, it is not designed for anybody.

bronco21016 4mo ago
100%. It’s accessible to only the truly stubborn among us who have no other option available to make things just work.
kalleboo 4mo ago
It's funny how they went from AppleScript -> "oh writing scripts is too complicated for users, let's create Automator" -> "Automator is too simple, let's create Shortcuts" -> now with shortcuts being generated by language models they need a structured scripting language again. AppleScript even had "dictionaries" declaring their commands and everything, would have been perfect way teach LLMs how to automate applications.
- bobbylarrybobby 4mo ago
  The original MCP!
nozzlegear 4mo ago
You can write AppleScript in JavaScript, a much better language than applescript itself. Neither are usable outside of macOS ofc
archagon 4mo ago
I've never been more frustrated programming something than when I tried to build a non-trivial Shortcut. Things that I could have expressed in a quick script took me literal hours to compose and debug using the WYSIWYG interface. And since there's no version control, any mistake runs the risk of dislocating an element or messing up an input/output connection and breaking everything permanently.

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ex-aws-dude 4mo ago

How long until they allow sandboxed vibecoded apps? Seems like the logical next step