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The whole HN is one huge AI ad now.
by wartywhoa23 5mo ago
The whole HN is one huge AI ad now.
- OtomotO 5mo agoIt's a cult. And frankly, I am not interested in churches or cults.
- Terr_ 5mo agoIn between some old family history and recent US politics, I think there are other things I'd rather reserve the weighty word "cult" for... However, should it arise, one of the features that might convince me is this: In the name of "loyalty" or "faith" cults require members to burn their bridges, actively cutting off their own potential to escape to any other social support network. That may mean creating enemies out of former associates, humiliating rituals or blackmail material, or simply ruining their reputations through obvious lies.
- OtomotO 5mo agoI don't particularly care about the US or US politics since 2016. Unless you invade a country again and we have to deal with the Fallout for years to come, that is. For example: I have banned all news about Trump administration from my home. It's simply not interesting. He is a toddler, and I have a toddler of my own.
- Terr_ 5mo agoI think I did quite enough to be vague and oblique on that context, so that it wasn't the focus, and any reader could avoid the topic... if they chose to.
- greenchair 5mo agoWhat the leader of the free world says or does is definitely interesting to us.
- OtomotO 5mo agoNot to me. He turns around and changes his opinion more often than his underwear. And he is not the leader of the free world. Not since they bombed Vietnam.
- simondotau 5mo agoThe utility of current-era AI may well be overstated, and the business models of certain companies might be doubtful, but that doesn't make AI it a "cult".
- OtomotO 5mo agoAI is not a cult, HN regarding AI is. It's boring and it's viral and if you refuse to participate, there are still people annoying you with their beliefs. It's a fucking tool, like a fucking shovel.
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- lukan 5mo ago"It's a fucking tool, like a fucking shovel." The difference is, if you talk with your shovel, you are talking with yourself. But talking to AI gives you answers and more smart ones, than most humans do. So it is still a tool, but of a very different kind.
- OtomotO 5mo agoAnd here is where we disagree. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZA_effect We are no further to general artificial intelligence than we were a decade ago.
- lukan 5mo agoThanks, but I don't need to click, that to know what is inside. And to be honest, a LLM could have give me the same response. (But I made no claims of AGI btw.)
- OtomotO 5mo ago> And to be honest, a LLM could have give me the same response. It could, or it could've hallucinated something :) But then again, I could too, if I smoked enough or fell on my head. Plus it would've produced more CO2 than I did, hopefully :)
- jwpapi 5mo agoI’m looking for an alternative too..
- chvid 5mo agoI thought we were too anti-AI?
- ozim 5mo agoDepends which agent you ask to cherry pick comments for sentiment analysis.
- simondotau 5mo agoPro- or anti-AI, it's seemingly related or tangentially related to half of the discussions on HN.
- josephg 5mo agoI think AI programming just has a bliss period for a lot of people where it feels like you can solve every problem with a prompt. And you can, for a time. Eventually the chickens come home to roost and you realise what a mess you made. Give it some time. We’ll figure out what LLMs are good and bad at. I think vibe engineering will eventually go up on the wall next to static vs dynamic typing and vi vs eMacs. At least, that assumes AI models won’t keep improving by leaps and bounds. We’re in a transition period. It’s gonna be chaos.
- t_mahmood 5mo agoHey, at least vi vs emacs is fun, no matter how crappy as an editor Emacs is, no one is getting paid by privacy invasive corporate, to sway people, to cash out more money
- k8sToGo 5mo agoYesterday I needed a tool for a specific task. In 1 hour I created a working tool with antigravity. Is it something I'd publish or sell or offer to others? Probably not, but I found that quite impressive. It is an extension of the idea "now I can program and create everything." Besides I remember what kind of code we had when we first started coding with AI and now with all these coding agents etc. it has become quite impressive. However, at the end it is still a tool and needs to be used accordingly.
- kennywinker 5mo agoYou can create anything you need as long as what you need is a disposable script, a scotch-taped together single page app, or a complex problem and you have thousands of dollars to throw at tokens.
- toyg 5mo agoI've been playing with local models for some time, and I've been pleasantly surprised of late. A meager rtx 5080 with 16gb can give pretty good results now. The ecosystem is also improving pretty quickly. I have a feeling at some point we will have a "Windows 95" moment (when computing really became personal for the masses) in AI, and things will significantly change shape again.
- signatoremo 5mo agoWell, confirmation bias. You see what support your beliefs, ignoring anti AI articles being promoted.
- narrator 5mo agoIt's also a huge ad for microprocessors. I mean don't people realize we did math before microprocessors? We even had mechanical machines which were much more elegant than these electronic abominations. /s
- superkickstart 5mo ago[dead]
- luka2233 5mo agoI was literally reading through another thread[0] where the OP claimed that HN is anti-AI. I guess HN is decently balanced afterall? [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48420827 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48420827
- alfirous 5mo agoAnd the comments you reply to prove the point made by Dang.
- deepfriedchokes 5mo agoIt’s some Sun Tzu shit. Create a sense of inevitability such that they win the war for financial capital without any fighting, then hope the tech catches up before Capitalists realize they’ve been fleeced. The Dotcom bubble was the same scam.
- wartywhoa23 5mo agoThis, absolutely. It's pure chutzpah, acting like you've already won and poisoning minds with inevitablism, alreadism and FOMO.
- bitvvip 5mo agoDo you still know the Art of War by Sun Tzu?