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I mean, if Japan is the world's future, isn't that kind of... good? It's not the first place I think of when I think of a failing country.

guyzero 4mo ago
Japan is not without problems related to a shrinking population i.e. https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/05/21/japans-immigration-politics-starves-restaurants-of-workers/ https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/05/21/japans-immigration-poli... but it's a problem easily solved by just letting in more immigrants.
- b65e8bee43c2ed0 4mo ago
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  - guyzero 4mo ago
    Japan is already accepting immigrants! It's right there in the article I linked! It's just a question of raising the quota slightly. It's hardly going to solve every problem, it will keep restaurants from closing.
    - 9dev 4mo ago
      "allowing to enter the country" and "accepting" are two very distinct things.
      - guyzero 4mo ago
        In English they can, in fact, be used, at times, interchangeably! https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accept https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accept Accept: to give admittance Why is every argument against any level of immigration that the people of Japan are unchangeably xenophobic? Japan is bringing in more immigrants than ever: https://soranews24.com/2025/08/13/foreign-population-in-japan-hits-record-high-as-japanese-population-falls-to-record-low/ https://soranews24.com/2025/08/13/foreign-population-in-japa...
  - cjs_ac 4mo ago
    Not decline, but Australia considered its population too small after the Second World War and very successfully integrated immigrants from an increasing diversity of source countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-war_immigration_to_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-war_immigration_to_Austra...
    - b65e8bee43c2ed0 4mo ago
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    - b0rtb0rt 4mo ago
      there’s a lot less to lose when your native population is a bunch of criminals and convicts
  - robocat 4mo ago
    Both New Zealand and Australia have about 30% of the population born overseas. Immigration does lead to some stresses but it also has bonuses. Immigration seems to clearly help in the short term. But yes, immigration doesn't solve the demographics issue, because immigrant citizens also get old and expect government support. Immigrants do often have good sized families so that brings in a fresh generation of New Zealanders. Plenty of my married friends are from mixed cultures. In some cultures their children give more time to care for their own parents or elderly family. New Zealand born children seem less likely to do so. The local born often whine because whinging is a significant part of our colonial heritage from England.
- mystreamlincar 4mo ago
  Except the fertility rate is declining worldwide
- Hendrikto 4mo ago
  > but it's a problem easily solved by just letting in more immigrants This has been tried extensively e.g. in Germany, France, Sweden, Canada, …. It did not work out great.
  - guyzero 4mo ago
    Canada has always accepted immigrants. Rapidly increasing the number of foreign students to goose the slumping post-secondary education sector did not work out great. Even with the reductions, there are always immigrants coming into Canada.
bamboozled 4mo ago
It's causing massive issues in Japan, unless you read those Instagram posts that tell you everything is perfect.

guyzero 4mo ago

Japan is not without problems related to a shrinking population i.e. https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/05/21/japans-immigration-politics-starves-restaurants-of-workers/ https://eastasiaforum.org/2026/05/21/japans-immigration-poli... but it's a problem easily solved by just letting in more immigrants.

b65e8bee43c2ed0 4mo ago
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- guyzero 4mo ago
  Japan is already accepting immigrants! It's right there in the article I linked! It's just a question of raising the quota slightly. It's hardly going to solve every problem, it will keep restaurants from closing.
  - 9dev 4mo ago
    "allowing to enter the country" and "accepting" are two very distinct things.
    - guyzero 4mo ago
      In English they can, in fact, be used, at times, interchangeably! https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accept https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/accept Accept: to give admittance Why is every argument against any level of immigration that the people of Japan are unchangeably xenophobic? Japan is bringing in more immigrants than ever: https://soranews24.com/2025/08/13/foreign-population-in-japan-hits-record-high-as-japanese-population-falls-to-record-low/ https://soranews24.com/2025/08/13/foreign-population-in-japa...
- cjs_ac 4mo ago
  Not decline, but Australia considered its population too small after the Second World War and very successfully integrated immigrants from an increasing diversity of source countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-war_immigration_to_Australia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-war_immigration_to_Austra...
  - b65e8bee43c2ed0 4mo ago
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  - b0rtb0rt 4mo ago
    there’s a lot less to lose when your native population is a bunch of criminals and convicts
- robocat 4mo ago
  Both New Zealand and Australia have about 30% of the population born overseas. Immigration does lead to some stresses but it also has bonuses. Immigration seems to clearly help in the short term. But yes, immigration doesn't solve the demographics issue, because immigrant citizens also get old and expect government support. Immigrants do often have good sized families so that brings in a fresh generation of New Zealanders. Plenty of my married friends are from mixed cultures. In some cultures their children give more time to care for their own parents or elderly family. New Zealand born children seem less likely to do so. The local born often whine because whinging is a significant part of our colonial heritage from England.
mystreamlincar 4mo ago
Except the fertility rate is declining worldwide
Hendrikto 4mo ago
> but it's a problem easily solved by just letting in more immigrants This has been tried extensively e.g. in Germany, France, Sweden, Canada, …. It did not work out great.
- guyzero 4mo ago
  Canada has always accepted immigrants. Rapidly increasing the number of foreign students to goose the slumping post-secondary education sector did not work out great. Even with the reductions, there are always immigrants coming into Canada.

bamboozled 4mo ago

It's causing massive issues in Japan, unless you read those Instagram posts that tell you everything is perfect.