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based on your description, one reasonable way to 'revolutionize' school might simply allow people (who don't want to be there) to leave.
by fhe 4mo ago
based on your description, one reasonable way to 'revolutionize' school might simply allow people (who don't want to be there) to leave.
- nhinck2 4mo agoThere has been a shift towards too many jobs requiring a tertiary education. But good luck reversing that trend.
- bawolff 4mo agoSo? People can decide if they want the job enough to participate in the degree or not.
- groundzeros2015 4mo agoThis is not true. There has been a shift in requirements to combat credential inflation. The average person is not smarter or more capable.
- somenameforme 4mo agoI think you misunderstood his comment, because you agree with him. He's not saying require as in needed to do the work, but required as in unnecessarily needed to be accepted for the job.
- groundzeros2015 4mo agoThen I agree. I read it as the argument that the economy is actually more technically complex and requires additional education, which is a common argument made be politicians and university admins.
- peterfirefly 4mo agoreading skills are important.
- cortesoft 4mo agoThey were already at a University. None of the students were required to be there. They all had the ability to just leave.
- laughing_man 4mo agoThat's the problem with having universities issue credentials. You end up with a lot of people who have no interest in learning but are going to stick it out for the credential.
- bluGill 4mo agoThat might be fine for someone in the wrong college degree, but I - as a tax payer - need every sixth grader to learn essential the same things. I need kids to grow up able to provide life support for themselves so I can retire as by body fails from old age. I'm investing in the future of many kids I otherwise don't know or care about because making their life better makes mine better. Even in the case of a college degree some are better than others
- kitchi 4mo agoDepending on what you mean by "school" I'd disagree. Voluntary tertiary education makes sense, not all chosen professions may need or benefit from a degree. But primary education needs to be a requirement for every child. Coming from a country with a large illiterate population, it's easy to see how hard their lives are compared to folks with an education but similar socio-economic backgrounds. Now obviously implementing universal primary education and the details can be debated and need to be context specific.
- BobbyTables2 4mo agoProblem is when one mixes kids who don’t want to be there with one’s that do, they all suffer. Makes a lot of teacher not want to be there too! The schools also have little interest in spending time and money on the higher performing students. They teach the minimum and focus resources on the failing ones to raise school averages. Currently, tertiary education is where a lot of real learning takes starts to happen.
- throwaway2037 4mo ago> Problem is when one mixes kids who don’t want to be there with one’s that do, they all suffer. At what age do you think kids should be able to leave school?
- bluGill 4mo agoI don't like my options. I want all kids to like school and so be there from 6 - 26 (that is get a phd). Anything else is a failure, even if it makes some kids better to get rid of other kids, it makes those kids worse.
- peterfirefly 4mo agocloser to 12 than to 15.
- SoftTalker 4mo agoLeaving school after 8th grade used to be pretty common. Many jobs were available for someone with an 8th grade education, or you'd start an apprenticeship.