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.I urge everyone reading to unsubscribe instantaneously from the NYTimes for their business practices. Do not do business with unethical companies. You are not

by spelk 4mo ago

.I urge everyone reading to unsubscribe instantaneously from the NYTimes for their business practices. Do not do business with unethical companies. You are not wrong for thinking that, but I encourage people to consider that generally the business and editorial areas are largely independent of each other because of the value of editorial independence in case they think that the lack of ethics applies to their journalism too.

epistasis 4mo ago
Well I would also encourage people to unsubscribe for their editorial practices, and this was the incident that prompted my second unsubscription: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/05/new-york-times-says-tom-cotton-opinion-piece-did-not-meet-editorial-standards https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/05/new-york-times... They have predilection for defense of elites, including Trump, and have not challenged his corruption to the degree that they have challenged, say Clinton's accusations of corruption. Their defense of the elite in their coverage that launched the war in Iraq, the outright corruption of their own reporters and editors, is not reflected in the overall reputation of the NYTimes. Holding them up as the beacon of good journalism results in poor judgements on what's happening with current affairs, because they are often quite biased in very disastrous ways that have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and trillions of wasted defense spending. More recently, the circling of the wagons of those considered "in-group" like Olivia Nuzzi has also been despicable, but definitely descriptive of the general editorial choices at the NYTimes. However I don't expect as many people to agree with me that the NYTimes has an undeserved reputation for journalistic excellence, so I focus mostly on their bad business practices.
- dualvariable 4mo ago
  I haven't had a NYTimes subscription since around 1991. This thread has a whole bunch of Charlie Browns in it who are "shocked, shocked" to find that Lucy has pulled away the football once again...
cwillu 4mo ago
Have they issued a retraction for the biologically impossible “dog rape” claims yet?
- throwaway85825 4mo ago
  I suspect this has something to do with a middle eastern conflict of which I don't know the details. That said I know from other stories that this isn't impossible

by spelk 4mo ago

epistasis 4mo ago

Well I would also encourage people to unsubscribe for their editorial practices, and this was the incident that prompted my second unsubscription: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/05/new-york-times-says-tom-cotton-opinion-piece-did-not-meet-editorial-standards https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/05/new-york-times... They have predilection for defense of elites, including Trump, and have not challenged his corruption to the degree that they have challenged, say Clinton's accusations of corruption. Their defense of the elite in their coverage that launched the war in Iraq, the outright corruption of their own reporters and editors, is not reflected in the overall reputation of the NYTimes. Holding them up as the beacon of good journalism results in poor judgements on what's happening with current affairs, because they are often quite biased in very disastrous ways that have resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people and trillions of wasted defense spending. More recently, the circling of the wagons of those considered "in-group" like Olivia Nuzzi has also been despicable, but definitely descriptive of the general editorial choices at the NYTimes. However I don't expect as many people to agree with me that the NYTimes has an undeserved reputation for journalistic excellence, so I focus mostly on their bad business practices.

dualvariable 4mo ago
I haven't had a NYTimes subscription since around 1991. This thread has a whole bunch of Charlie Browns in it who are "shocked, shocked" to find that Lucy has pulled away the football once again...

cwillu 4mo ago

Have they issued a retraction for the biologically impossible “dog rape” claims yet?

throwaway85825 4mo ago
I suspect this has something to do with a middle eastern conflict of which I don't know the details. That said I know from other stories that this isn't impossible