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Even so, the article says it grew 8% YOY in the US. The best is to hope that this is an unstoppable trend so that even politicians won't be able to reverse it.

by cloche 4mo ago

ceejayoz 4mo ago
Never underestimate the capacity of shitty people to shoot themselves and others in the foot.
adjejmxbdjdn 4mo ago
Imagine how much faster it would be growing if the U.S. government wasn’t paying companies billions to not produce wind energy https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/23/climate/offshore-wind-gas-trump-total.html?searchResultPosition=2 https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/23/climate/offshore-wind-gas... or delaying standard approvals https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/climate/wind-solar-projects.html?searchResultPosition=9 https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/climate/wind-solar-projec...
- wat10000 4mo ago
  Or forcing unprofitable coal power plants to remain operating against their owners' wishes. https://www.energy.gov/documents/doe-order-no-202-26-19-schahfer https://www.energy.gov/documents/doe-order-no-202-26-19-scha...
willio58 4mo ago
It’s already irreversible, but it’s just disappointing to see how the U.S. administration has chosen to actively fight against it, while other countries like China are embracing reality. It’s actually funny if you don’t think about it too hard. The U.S. president is trying to make us more reliant on fossil fuels, while starting a war in Iran that’s led to the global fossil fuel market to be negatively impacted, forcing most Americans to pay more for fossil fuels. Who could have seen that coming? We’re doing great!
- mrhottakes 4mo ago
  "No One Could Have Predicted This!" - Nation where this happens all the time
- dnautics 4mo ago
  > the U.S. administration has chosen to actively fight against it the biggest producer of renewables is Texas, by a longshot. and the state of california just created insane NEM laws that favor the pockets of pg&e (and are shit for the environment) and as a result solar home installations have cratered.
  - ceejayoz 4mo ago
    > the biggest producer of renewables is Texas That doesn't refute the point at all.
    - dnautics 4mo ago
      no, but renewables do speak for themselves in dollars and cents, even if they dont have subsidy. now should petrochem subsidies end too? probably yes.
      - ceejayoz 4mo ago
        > renewables do speak for themselves in dollars and cents Yes. But administration opposition can change that math, as they have with the tariffs.
        dnautics 4mo ago
        they're not going to. solar and wind producers in texas are rich republicans.
  - some-guy 4mo ago
    Both NEM 2.0 and 3.0 have serious issues, but for different reasons. NEM 2.0 was basically a early adopter's rich person's subsidy that heavily distorted the market, and NEM 3.0 does not have nearly enough subsidies to justify the cost unless you pay cash up front for a large system. (For the record, I am on NEM 3.0 and got such a system). At the end of the day, the best case scenario is large scale renewable / battery storage to bring costs down as much as possible, and for those of us who want battery backup / solar can choose to invest in it, but it shouldn't be "the" solution.
jqpabc123 4mo ago
Even so, the article says it grew 8% YOY in the US. Versus 35% YOY in China. China gets it, the USA doesn't. The best is to hope that this is an unstoppable trend The trend is the USA choosing politics over reality as China becomes unstoppable. https://carboncredits.com/china-adds-power-7x-more-than-the-us-in-2025-with-500b-energy-build-out-in-a-single-year/ https://carboncredits.com/china-adds-power-7x-more-than-the-...
- cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
  The US isn't choosing "politics" It's "choosing" short term profits because its leadership (and its voters) have given up on long term stable trade and planning, and instead embraced oligarchy and rentier capitalism. You can't parasitize solar and wind. There's few to no middlemen. No way to monopolize it. So it must be discouraged while you extract the last few years of wealth out of the assets you already control.

Even so, the article says it grew 8% YOY in the US. The best is to hope that this is an unstoppable trend so that even politicians won't be able to reverse it.

by cloche 4mo ago

Even so, the article says it grew 8% YOY in the US. The best is to hope that this is an unstoppable trend so that even politicians won't be able to reverse it.

ceejayoz 4mo ago

Never underestimate the capacity of shitty people to shoot themselves and others in the foot.

adjejmxbdjdn 4mo ago

Imagine how much faster it would be growing if the U.S. government wasn’t paying companies billions to not produce wind energy https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/23/climate/offshore-wind-gas-trump-total.html?searchResultPosition=2 https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/23/climate/offshore-wind-gas... or delaying standard approvals https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/climate/wind-solar-projects.html?searchResultPosition=9 https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/04/climate/wind-solar-projec...

wat10000 4mo ago
Or forcing unprofitable coal power plants to remain operating against their owners' wishes. https://www.energy.gov/documents/doe-order-no-202-26-19-schahfer https://www.energy.gov/documents/doe-order-no-202-26-19-scha...

willio58 4mo ago

It’s already irreversible, but it’s just disappointing to see how the U.S. administration has chosen to actively fight against it, while other countries like China are embracing reality. It’s actually funny if you don’t think about it too hard. The U.S. president is trying to make us more reliant on fossil fuels, while starting a war in Iran that’s led to the global fossil fuel market to be negatively impacted, forcing most Americans to pay more for fossil fuels. Who could have seen that coming? We’re doing great!

mrhottakes 4mo ago
"No One Could Have Predicted This!" - Nation where this happens all the time
dnautics 4mo ago
> the U.S. administration has chosen to actively fight against it the biggest producer of renewables is Texas, by a longshot. and the state of california just created insane NEM laws that favor the pockets of pg&e (and are shit for the environment) and as a result solar home installations have cratered.
- ceejayoz 4mo ago
  > the biggest producer of renewables is Texas That doesn't refute the point at all.
  - dnautics 4mo ago
    no, but renewables do speak for themselves in dollars and cents, even if they dont have subsidy. now should petrochem subsidies end too? probably yes.
    - ceejayoz 4mo ago
      > renewables do speak for themselves in dollars and cents Yes. But administration opposition can change that math, as they have with the tariffs.
      - dnautics 4mo ago
        they're not going to. solar and wind producers in texas are rich republicans.
- some-guy 4mo ago
  Both NEM 2.0 and 3.0 have serious issues, but for different reasons. NEM 2.0 was basically a early adopter's rich person's subsidy that heavily distorted the market, and NEM 3.0 does not have nearly enough subsidies to justify the cost unless you pay cash up front for a large system. (For the record, I am on NEM 3.0 and got such a system). At the end of the day, the best case scenario is large scale renewable / battery storage to bring costs down as much as possible, and for those of us who want battery backup / solar can choose to invest in it, but it shouldn't be "the" solution.

jqpabc123 4mo ago

Even so, the article says it grew 8% YOY in the US. Versus 35% YOY in China. China gets it, the USA doesn't. The best is to hope that this is an unstoppable trend The trend is the USA choosing politics over reality as China becomes unstoppable. https://carboncredits.com/china-adds-power-7x-more-than-the-us-in-2025-with-500b-energy-build-out-in-a-single-year/ https://carboncredits.com/china-adds-power-7x-more-than-the-...

cmrdporcupine 4mo ago
The US isn't choosing "politics" It's "choosing" short term profits because its leadership (and its voters) have given up on long term stable trade and planning, and instead embraced oligarchy and rentier capitalism. You can't parasitize solar and wind. There's few to no middlemen. No way to monopolize it. So it must be discouraged while you extract the last few years of wealth out of the assets you already control.