I think that our definitions of easy differ. I don't consider any of those kits very easy to deal with, despite the fact that I am fully capable of building ap

I think that our definitions of easy differ. I don't consider any of those kits very easy to deal with, despite the fact that I am fully capable of building apps with them. They're certainly nowhere near the realm of kits like RealStudio/RealBasic, FileMaker, Access, VB4/5/6 or even WinForms with Visual Studio (some of which I know are not cross-platform...but they are easy).