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The ram is the real sticking point honestly. Yes they are more powerful but consider people's use case. My 2012 dual core mbp is still performant for what most
by asdff 5mo ago
The ram is the real sticking point honestly. Yes they are more powerful but consider people's use case. My 2012 dual core mbp is still performant for what most people use their computers for: internet, email, office suite, etc. And I shoved 16gb RAM in that thing 10 years ago. I guess they will just swap on the fast ssd so it will be alright.
- riffraff 5mo ago> I guess they will just swap on the fast ssd so it will be alright but that should cause extra wear on the SSD, or is this no longer a concern?
- asdff 5mo agoCertainly but I'd guess the problem won't manifest for years and other showstopping pieces might fail before then. That old frankenstein macbook of mine had the same 850 evo ssd I shoved in it for like 8 years of use and abuse, always high temps with that macbook too. People say you shouldn't use an ssd like that but oh well, it seems to work alright.
- GeekyBear 5mo agoThere wouldn't be so many people who see no need to upgrade their M1 series computers if this were a real concern.
- varispeed 5mo agoFriend of mine has 32GB laptop with top spec last gen Intel 9 and it barely handles larger Word documents and Teams calls. The fan is just obnoxious on top of that.
- asdff 5mo agoThere is just no way it is actually barely handling them. My 2012 with the dual core handles that. Fans turning on doesn't mean it barely handles it. That is just how those intel macs were. They were like that on day 1 in 2012. Spotlight indexing could be enough to spin the fans. Still does the job though even if its hot and noisy.
- varispeed 5mo agoDepends what your criteria for handling are. The documents work, but navigation (like scrolling) is a slideshow, there is visible lag between pressing a key and character appearing on the screen. When you switch between browser and Word etc, there is a lag, you can see screen being redrawn etc. Yes, it "does the job". But experience is abysmal.
- rationalist 5mo agoTop-spec computers will always shit the bed when they aren't taken care of properly (bloatware, blocked airflow, etc)
- asdff 5mo agoEven for the arm series macs the max cpus run way hotter and spin fans sooner than base model in general tasks. Just how those chips are designed. They aren't designed to throttle to keep temps down, they are designed to give you all the horsepower knowing you don't care about noise and heat and care about performance.
- thenthenthen 5mo agoIts so weird, something i noticed (or made up) is that at my workplaces, the topspec workstations are always taking ages to boot (counting the ram?). My 15 year old xeon win box boots in about 10sec. Maybe they dont have fastboot enabled idk…
- rationalist 5mo agoMy workplace installs a ton of background software on their PCs. God help you, if it's your first time logging into any PC there and it has to load everything in your account/profile for the first time. They don't last more than a couple of years before they start becoming painfully slow, even after being reimaged. Whereas my 10+ year old laptops and desktops are as fast as the day I bought or assembled them.
- varispeed 5mo agoNo bloatware, it's been thoroughly cleaned. Only software friend actually uses is installed.
- rationalist 5mo agoIf the computer has been overworked in the past, it permanently slows it down. Heat can permanently change the electrical resistance of the metal conductors in the computer's components.
- cls59 5mo agoIf Apple keeps using A Pro-series chips for the Neo, then the RAM will go to at least 12GB when they swap to the A19 Pro, or newer.