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I also want to communicate with someone and have programming conversations. There's no one around me to talk about programming with. I'm the only programmer aro

by jdw64 5mo ago

I also want to communicate with someone and have programming conversations. There's no one around me to talk about programming with. I'm the only programmer around. Aside from AI and books, I sometimes want to talk with a real person.

8-prime 5mo ago
I found great enjoyment from https://late.sh/ https://late.sh/. I'm not as active as I would like to be but the small community is still active enought that there is basically always someone around to chat with.
- jdw64 5mo ago
  thanks!
  - 8-prime 5mo ago
    If you do end up joining feel free to dm me. same user as here.
    - jdw64 5mo ago
      I'm not sure about the DM feature, but I like this more than I thought. I don't have any memories of the TUI environment (most of my memories are from IRC), but it has an IRC feel to it, so I like it
- 0fflineuser 5mo ago
  I am actually blown away by how good it is. Both the features, the UI, everything. wow.
- Ocha 5mo ago
  Can’t connect unfortunately. debug1: Sending environment. debug1: channel 2: setting env LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" debug2: channel 2: request env confirm 0 debug1: channel 2: setting env LC_TERMINAL = "iTerm2" debug2: channel 2: request env confirm 0 debug1: channel 2: setting env LC_TERMINAL_VERSION = "3.6.10" debug2: channel 2: request env confirm 0 debug1: channel 2: setting env LC_ALL = "en_US.UTF-8" debug2: channel 2: request env confirm 0 debug2: channel 2: request shell confirm 1 debug2: channel_input_open_confirmation: channel 2: callback done debug2: channel 2: open confirm rwindow 8388608 rmax 32768 debug1: mux_client_request_session: master session id: 2 debug2: channel_input_status_confirm: type 99 id 2 debug2: PTY allocation request accepted on channel 2 Connection to late.sh closed by remote host.
  - bl4ckbe4r 5mo ago
    Can you try one more time? And if still failing, are you ok with trying the CLI? CLI is a little more bulletproof, have its own ssh client inside.
    - Ocha 5mo ago
      Did some debugging. It works after I disabled compression and control master. I didn’t like CLI, since it didn’t pick up my default ssh key from the agent.
    - bl4ckbe4r 5mo ago
      the CLI also have some args to use, like --key or --ssh-mode :)
- creamyhorror 5mo ago
  This is amazing, a true gem. I need to get it set up.
wouldbecouldbe 5mo ago
In most places there are software meetups, in my area there are many at meetup.com. I once started one myself, that later got taken over and is still quite big. Actually a lot of fun, and at the time we would even get sponsoring offers quite quickly.
- jdw64 5mo ago
  I don't have that kind of gathering on side. There are no programming meetups. It's an industrial area. My job mostly involves programming equipment operation using WinForm and WPF. I sometimes wish there were such meetups too. Around here, it's all factories
  - embedding-shape 5mo ago
    Create your own low-stakes "Beer & Programming" or whatever is doable where you live. I grew up on a island where there was maybe one or two other people who knew computers enough to know programming as a thing existed as a concept, but similarly to you, absolutely nothing else, and it gets very lonely and outright boring after a while. I solved this (accidentally) by moving to another area, but isn't possible for everyone, then the closest you can get to that would be to bring people closer to where you are instead, or start up something small and reoccurring :)
    - jdw64 5mo ago
      Thank you for your advice.
  - wouldbecouldbe 5mo ago
    yeah you can just start your own! meetup (and if you have fb groups) have a good chance to bring in lots of people.
- bluebarbet 5mo ago
  Tangentially, over the last decade or two Meetup.com has allowed me to meet countless people in multiple countries, of whom some became friends. I've got such value out of this commercial service that I frequently find myself worrying about its business model. To me, Meetup is close to being the holy grail: an independent company, an excellent web client with no need to install an app, and it's not integrated with the corporate social platforms. I so want them to continue to prosper.
ZaoLahma 5mo ago
I (software engineer) have lived with a software engineer for 14 years. We (half jokingly, somewhat seriously) refer to non-software engineers as "real persons", or human-humans.
- francisofascii 5mo ago
  AKA "Normies" (heard on Scott Hanselman's podcast)
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tetris11 5mo ago
I gave away an old switch to a guy on Gumtree. He mentioned he was building a machine cabinet. We got talking. He's now my home lab shoptalk guy, and we meet in the pub every other month. I gave away an old PCB to a guy in gumtree. We got talking. He's now my 3D printer shop talk guy, and we meet at the pub every other month. It's surprisingly easier to foster your own hacker space if you trade goods in those circles. Best part is that Gumtree/Craigslist/Kleinanzeigen let you define a radius to meet these people, so they're all local I'd advise against the "Im lonely..." angle in seeking out these connections, go more for the "hey I've got this thing you might want..." style patter, even if the former is true. And always use protection.
- domlebo70 5mo ago
  Awesome. Similar experience to me. Was selling some sim racing gear, and he mentioned he was in fabrication. Now he's my fab guy and we chat heaps.
  - embedding-shape 5mo ago
    Most of my local music production buddies I've met by selling and purchasing second-hand music hardware, as I always sell/buy stuff in driving range, and it's a nice excuse to meet people who like the same stuff as you :) Lots of ways to meet people like this, depending on what you're into.
- rramadass 5mo ago
  +1 for Good actionable advice.
ChrisMarshallNY 5mo ago
I live in an area dominated by finance and commerce people (New York Suburbs). I’ve learned not to talk about what I do, as I see eyes glaze over, quickly, when I do. If I were to talk about the commodities exchanges, though, we’d be chatting up a storm. I miss having people to talk to, about this stuff. The few techhies around, tend to freeze me out. They all like going into Brooklyn, to hang out. I guess that’s one reason that I’m so busy here.
- clbrmbr 5mo ago
  Which suburb, haha. I’m in Englewood and have similar experience of very few tech folks around.
  - ChrisMarshallNY 5mo ago
    Long Island (Huntington area).
UpAndOut 5mo ago
I recently moved to London. Would be really really happy to meet up with others who enjoy computers/hobbyists. If you have a blog, I'm interested in meeting you! There are too many corporate events here and almost no hobbyist groups.
ozim 5mo ago
For me problem is that talking with developers most of the time is more annoying than it is worth. Being one-upped all the time, having devs nag about tiny irrelevant flaws just to show who is smarter. Adding just one more sentence to keep upper hand and trying to „make better” when good wasn’t done yet. When I was younger I also had my fair share of those flaws.
- jdw64 5mo ago
  Actually, I think all professional fields are similar. But even so, sometimes I still miss having people around
- amelius 5mo ago
  > For me problem is that talking with developers most of the time is more annoying than it is worth. Then why are you on HN? ;)
  - rramadass 5mo ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48382972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48382972
- rramadass 5mo ago
  Ha, Ha, Very true though we don't like to admit it to ourselves. HN is full of these types (myself included when something really triggers me). The amount of trivialities/nitpicking/arguing-for-the-sake-of-arguing going on here is enough to try anybody's patience. I think if i were to discuss things face-to-face with some of the people here it may most probably end in screaming/yelling and fisticuffs ;-) It is a fundamental Human behavioural trait (i.e. the need to assert dominance through any means) that needs careful regulation in our communications. I try to deal with these people the Sherlock Holmes way ;-) "It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of light. Some people without possessing genius have a remarkable power of stimulating it ... When I said that you stimulated me I meant, to be frank, that in noting your fallacies I was occasionally guided towards the truth.".
raffael_de 5mo ago
back in the days of LAN parties, assembling PCs, making your own website with HTML/CSS/Perl, torrenting music etc. it seemed like a lot of random people around me had some level of competence and enthusiasm for at least one IT area. this is all gone. while one can argue that given how comfortable UX got and so you no longer need to know what a file is, I nonetheless believe such enthusiasm has never been more important. instead people are happy with what a bunch of mega corporations spoon feed them.
jlundberg 5mo ago
My two best points of advice is: Go to meetups/hackathons Threads the app, reply to coders on posts you find interesting and have things to add to.

by jdw64 5mo ago

8-prime 5mo ago

I found great enjoyment from https://late.sh/ https://late.sh/. I'm not as active as I would like to be but the small community is still active enought that there is basically always someone around to chat with.

jdw64 5mo ago
thanks!
- 8-prime 5mo ago
  If you do end up joining feel free to dm me. same user as here.
  - jdw64 5mo ago
    I'm not sure about the DM feature, but I like this more than I thought. I don't have any memories of the TUI environment (most of my memories are from IRC), but it has an IRC feel to it, so I like it
0fflineuser 5mo ago
I am actually blown away by how good it is. Both the features, the UI, everything. wow.
Ocha 5mo ago
Can’t connect unfortunately. debug1: Sending environment. debug1: channel 2: setting env LANG = "en_US.UTF-8" debug2: channel 2: request env confirm 0 debug1: channel 2: setting env LC_TERMINAL = "iTerm2" debug2: channel 2: request env confirm 0 debug1: channel 2: setting env LC_TERMINAL_VERSION = "3.6.10" debug2: channel 2: request env confirm 0 debug1: channel 2: setting env LC_ALL = "en_US.UTF-8" debug2: channel 2: request env confirm 0 debug2: channel 2: request shell confirm 1 debug2: channel_input_open_confirmation: channel 2: callback done debug2: channel 2: open confirm rwindow 8388608 rmax 32768 debug1: mux_client_request_session: master session id: 2 debug2: channel_input_status_confirm: type 99 id 2 debug2: PTY allocation request accepted on channel 2 Connection to late.sh closed by remote host.
- bl4ckbe4r 5mo ago
  Can you try one more time? And if still failing, are you ok with trying the CLI? CLI is a little more bulletproof, have its own ssh client inside.
  - Ocha 5mo ago
    Did some debugging. It works after I disabled compression and control master. I didn’t like CLI, since it didn’t pick up my default ssh key from the agent.
  - bl4ckbe4r 5mo ago
    the CLI also have some args to use, like --key or --ssh-mode :)
creamyhorror 5mo ago
This is amazing, a true gem. I need to get it set up.

wouldbecouldbe 5mo ago

In most places there are software meetups, in my area there are many at meetup.com. I once started one myself, that later got taken over and is still quite big. Actually a lot of fun, and at the time we would even get sponsoring offers quite quickly.

jdw64 5mo ago
I don't have that kind of gathering on side. There are no programming meetups. It's an industrial area. My job mostly involves programming equipment operation using WinForm and WPF. I sometimes wish there were such meetups too. Around here, it's all factories
- embedding-shape 5mo ago
  Create your own low-stakes "Beer & Programming" or whatever is doable where you live. I grew up on a island where there was maybe one or two other people who knew computers enough to know programming as a thing existed as a concept, but similarly to you, absolutely nothing else, and it gets very lonely and outright boring after a while. I solved this (accidentally) by moving to another area, but isn't possible for everyone, then the closest you can get to that would be to bring people closer to where you are instead, or start up something small and reoccurring :)
  - jdw64 5mo ago
    Thank you for your advice.
- wouldbecouldbe 5mo ago
  yeah you can just start your own! meetup (and if you have fb groups) have a good chance to bring in lots of people.
bluebarbet 5mo ago
Tangentially, over the last decade or two Meetup.com has allowed me to meet countless people in multiple countries, of whom some became friends. I've got such value out of this commercial service that I frequently find myself worrying about its business model. To me, Meetup is close to being the holy grail: an independent company, an excellent web client with no need to install an app, and it's not integrated with the corporate social platforms. I so want them to continue to prosper.

ZaoLahma 5mo ago

I (software engineer) have lived with a software engineer for 14 years. We (half jokingly, somewhat seriously) refer to non-software engineers as "real persons", or human-humans.

francisofascii 5mo ago
AKA "Normies" (heard on Scott Hanselman's podcast)

deleted 5mo ago

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tetris11 5mo ago

I gave away an old switch to a guy on Gumtree. He mentioned he was building a machine cabinet. We got talking. He's now my home lab shoptalk guy, and we meet in the pub every other month. I gave away an old PCB to a guy in gumtree. We got talking. He's now my 3D printer shop talk guy, and we meet at the pub every other month. It's surprisingly easier to foster your own hacker space if you trade goods in those circles. Best part is that Gumtree/Craigslist/Kleinanzeigen let you define a radius to meet these people, so they're all local I'd advise against the "Im lonely..." angle in seeking out these connections, go more for the "hey I've got this thing you might want..." style patter, even if the former is true. And always use protection.

domlebo70 5mo ago
Awesome. Similar experience to me. Was selling some sim racing gear, and he mentioned he was in fabrication. Now he's my fab guy and we chat heaps.
- embedding-shape 5mo ago
  Most of my local music production buddies I've met by selling and purchasing second-hand music hardware, as I always sell/buy stuff in driving range, and it's a nice excuse to meet people who like the same stuff as you :) Lots of ways to meet people like this, depending on what you're into.
rramadass 5mo ago
+1 for Good actionable advice.

ChrisMarshallNY 5mo ago

I live in an area dominated by finance and commerce people (New York Suburbs). I’ve learned not to talk about what I do, as I see eyes glaze over, quickly, when I do. If I were to talk about the commodities exchanges, though, we’d be chatting up a storm. I miss having people to talk to, about this stuff. The few techhies around, tend to freeze me out. They all like going into Brooklyn, to hang out. I guess that’s one reason that I’m so busy here.

clbrmbr 5mo ago
Which suburb, haha. I’m in Englewood and have similar experience of very few tech folks around.
- ChrisMarshallNY 5mo ago
  Long Island (Huntington area).

UpAndOut 5mo ago

I recently moved to London. Would be really really happy to meet up with others who enjoy computers/hobbyists. If you have a blog, I'm interested in meeting you! There are too many corporate events here and almost no hobbyist groups.

ozim 5mo ago

For me problem is that talking with developers most of the time is more annoying than it is worth. Being one-upped all the time, having devs nag about tiny irrelevant flaws just to show who is smarter. Adding just one more sentence to keep upper hand and trying to „make better” when good wasn’t done yet. When I was younger I also had my fair share of those flaws.

jdw64 5mo ago
Actually, I think all professional fields are similar. But even so, sometimes I still miss having people around
amelius 5mo ago
> For me problem is that talking with developers most of the time is more annoying than it is worth. Then why are you on HN? ;)
- rramadass 5mo ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48382972 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48382972
rramadass 5mo ago
Ha, Ha, Very true though we don't like to admit it to ourselves. HN is full of these types (myself included when something really triggers me). The amount of trivialities/nitpicking/arguing-for-the-sake-of-arguing going on here is enough to try anybody's patience. I think if i were to discuss things face-to-face with some of the people here it may most probably end in screaming/yelling and fisticuffs ;-) It is a fundamental Human behavioural trait (i.e. the need to assert dominance through any means) that needs careful regulation in our communications. I try to deal with these people the Sherlock Holmes way ;-) "It may be that you are not yourself luminous, but you are a conductor of light. Some people without possessing genius have a remarkable power of stimulating it ... When I said that you stimulated me I meant, to be frank, that in noting your fallacies I was occasionally guided towards the truth.".

raffael_de 5mo ago

back in the days of LAN parties, assembling PCs, making your own website with HTML/CSS/Perl, torrenting music etc. it seemed like a lot of random people around me had some level of competence and enthusiasm for at least one IT area. this is all gone. while one can argue that given how comfortable UX got and so you no longer need to know what a file is, I nonetheless believe such enthusiasm has never been more important. instead people are happy with what a bunch of mega corporations spoon feed them.

jlundberg 5mo ago

My two best points of advice is: Go to meetups/hackathons Threads the app, reply to coders on posts you find interesting and have things to add to.