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Toy Story 5 shows 'terror' of children's screen addiction, says Tom Hanks
- jdlyga 5mo agoA silver lining to this is new parents are very aware of the dangers of screen time. In my little community, I haven't seen parents of kids under the age of 3 give their kid any type of screen especially when they're out. It's a real generational divide, since I used to see kids with tablets in restaurants everywhere back 5 or 6 years ago. The new thing is screen free electronics, like a device kids can stick cards in and it repeats words in English or Spanish.
- ido 5mo agoI think it’s a class divided too- (financially) poor parents give their kids their phone but richer/more educated parents don’t.
- crassus_ed 5mo agoI recognize this too. There must be a correlation between the parents' level of education and the screen time the children have. Would be an interesting study.
- adrianN 5mo agoI‘d wager that the correlation is with how exhausting the parent‘s job is. Screens are excellent for keeping children occupied, keeping them happy in healthier ways requires a lot of energy. After working a hard job, running a household and worrying about whether you run out of money before the next paycheck I can imagine that many parents just don’t have the mental resources.
- jansan 5mo agoIf that was true you would see unemployed parents being best at keeping their children from the screens. It is awareness, i am pretty sure about this.
- King-Aaron 5mo agoFrom a parents perspective, I feel you are incorrect. Almost every other parent I speak to are well aware of how detrimental screen time is to their kids, and yet often still use devices when they're too tired for much else.
- peterbecich 5mo agoThis is consistent with the very old topic of television as babysitter
- latexr 5mo agoSomeone who is unemployed, especially if they’re poor, doesn’t suddenly have a lot of free time and headspace. On the contrary, they just got more stressed and pay even less attention since now they have yet another urgent issue weighting on their mind.
- gambiting 5mo agoI don't know what you think unemployment looks like, but for most people it's incredibly stressful and not a time when you can just sit on your ass and watch TV all day. The benefits, if you manage to secure them - are barely enough to get by.
- philipallstar 5mo ago> Screens are excellent for keeping children occupied, keeping them happy in healthier ways requires a lot of energy. It could also be that the parent wants to be on their screen at the same time, or wants to be on Instagram later into the night. There will be some correlation with work, but I doubt that explains most of it.
- tapoxi 5mo agoWe got my daughter a Yoto and it's a great device. She sticks a card in and it plays music or an audiobook. There's a "screen" but it's a low resolution pixel grid that shows pixel art of the current track.
- gommm 5mo agoWe use luuni which is similar (except that it also enable choose your own story with audiobooks). Even then, we limit it because otherwise he would want to listen to it every time before sleeping (and it prevents him from sleeping)
- teekert 5mo agoThe awareness is nice, but the friction is still there. So much energy goes into discussions about screen use, it's a real drain on the relation with my kids I feel. It's important to be clear and set boundaries, but there is always that one friend where they go to and just watch YT shorts until deep in the night falling asleep like a zombie. Moreover, my kid is often the only one with a locked phone (gets 2 hr a day which is also the time he is on the bus). I think it is already insanely much. But he still wants to plays Minecraft as soon as he comes home, this is also quite obsessively (he's in a lot of SMPs). Again it's nice he has a passion but too bad it's for a screen. My daughter in contrast can just play in the garden for hours. Of course he's not allowed most of the time, but the pressure is always on.
- philipallstar 5mo ago> Of course he's not allowed most of the time, but the pressure is always on. Definitely. We have similar, although have never given the kids portable screen devices (well, they had a tablet in the house and it was still too much, so we took it away). There are our phones, which they can rarely use and only for specific tasks like "play music on the speaker" or "do fantasy football", and there's a game console with a PIN, and there's a TV with a PIN. So everything requires us to do something, and uninstall games is on the table as a severe consequence. The only autonomous device is a Yoto, which is a card-based story playing device. It's not perfect, but they definitely want screens less than they used to.
- teekert 5mo agoThere is definitely the trend of "allow more, they whine about it more". At some point they're very absorbed indeed. Being stricter is harder at first but certainly becomes easier than them feeling they always have the option to maybe get screen-time (when it's maybe they strongly feel that whining may win them something, of course that has been the struggle of raining kids since forever), imho.
- not_a_bot_4sho 5mo agoMy eldest kids are allowed 2 hours of screen time on the weekends. Zero during weekdays. No phones, only tablets and computers. No social media allowed. Most of their peers seem to have unlimited or at least plentiful screen time, and often use their phones at bus stops and things like that so the friction you mention comes up. "It's not fair. Jane has a YouTube account and Instagram!" -- to which I mentally reply "tough shit" but verbally provide more polite answers. But I've got a younger one not yet in school, who is strictly limited to things like sesame street under supervision. I've noticed other daycare parents are similar as strict with screen time, with similar opinions about social media, something that wasn't the case with my older kids. I find that change refreshing.
- bestouff 5mo ago3 years old is very, very young as a "no-phone barrier".
- 47282847 5mo agoI see small children in strollers (prams?) with devices in front of them every day on public transport, sometimes as little as a few months old. Breaks my heart. Not to mention that basically everybody around them disappears into screens on trains/buses. It’s emotional abandonment. We are not here any more. When I make eye contact, the children light up. But the parents often don’t seem to like random strangers to make contact with their child like that. That I have to avoid or break up contact that the child themselves obviously enjoys, while their caretakers disappear into screens, then breaks my heart a second time. We have over 100 years of developmental psychology research to know that this is bad. Worse than bad. Typing this on public transport.
- gommm 5mo agoTrue for children under 3, however I see plenty of 8-9 years old glued to their tablet in restaurants.
- hexasquid 5mo agoDisney, here to save kids from screens. Reminds me of when I saw a bunch of tshirts with the word "PUNK" written on them displayed in a window in a mall.
- hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm 5mo agoI remember when Pixar created a virtual skinner box.
- sersi 5mo agowhich one?
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- steve_adams_86 5mo agoWhy would I extend the creative energy to figure out how to look punk when I can get the shirt for just $49.99
- mysterydip 5mo agoOnly $49.99?! I missed the sale!
- somewhatgoated 5mo agoChe Guevaras Image used to be the most widely sold T-shirt print (or maybe still is?)
- TurdF3rguson 5mo agoOr how the Ramones sold more t-shirts than albums.
- Der_Einzige 5mo agoBetween popularizing the perfecto jacket from Schott and “rock and roll high school” the ramones were 10/10
- qsera 5mo agoEven worse is what the screen is showing...Every new animation on youtube appear to involve some toilet reference, like if I look up dinosaur cartoons, most of the hits will be showing farting dinosaurs or potty training dinosaurs with animated shit (literally). Disgusting... WTAF? Thankfully there is also a wealth of 90s and older cartoons to be had if you care enough to search for them...
- kelseyfrog 5mo agoSo called "potty humour" aka "poop," has never been funny. What they want is for us to see excrement and giggle. That’s the rule, that’s the goal now.
- bshepard 5mo agoWho is "they"? Rabelais? Mozart? Alas many of us humans DO find poop to be funny, forgive us fallen shit stained beings.
- sonofhans 5mo agoI mean, really, what’s funnier than a monkey flinging poop?
- Cthulhu_ 5mo agoA devil with a giant bare ass flinging pork butts and taters with a catapult to an anthromorphised cow and a chicken, whose parents are only pairs of legs.
- LearnYouALisp 5mo agoLiteral drug addicts making your kids eye-food, then came the shock '00s
- Cthulhu_ 5mo agoI'm more of a comedic vomiting guy myself, e.g. "The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs"
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- delbronski 5mo agoI’ve noticed a lot of fear mongering with screens and kids. So called “experts” have taken a few correlational studies and concluded that screen time is the devil. Instagram is full of these podcast clips of experts warning parents of the terrible effects of screen time. However, if you actually read any of these papers, they make it quite clear that is impossible to fully separate screen effects from family environment, and effect sizes are often modest. Giving your 2 year old an iPad with YouTube everyday for 2 hours is obviously going to be bad for them. That’s a terrible extreme. But 20 minutes of Bluey here and there throughout the week is not gonna mess anybody up. So while I’m glad people are more aware of the negative effects of screen time, I also hate how extreme it has become. Parents, specially new parents are so susceptible to this kind of fear mongering.
- piltdownman 5mo agoScreen Time isn't the Devil - but it represents the hellish front-line in the algorithmically driven war for your attention.
- postexitus 5mo agoI don't think when people say "terror of screen time" they mean 20 minutes of Bluey here and there.
- demaga 5mo agoYeah I think even 2 hours is an underestimate these days.
- lnsru 5mo ago20 minutes of screen time daily is extreme parenting effort. That’s olympic level. I would say the new normal is 20 minutes after each meal.
- mscbuck 5mo agoI'm lucky enough to be able to send my child to day care where he doesn't get any screen time (obviously), so typically his only time he gets to watch something is when we are out and about, and even then we have a rule of timers before he can watch, or if we are at a tap house or something, we've made him actually have to sit and talk to people/friends, ask them how they are doing, introduce himself, etc. Once he does that, he can choose a Pixar movie of his choice or a live concert video to watch. And even with all that, I still feel guilty due to the reddit mob telling me it's going to destroy his brain.
- throwfaraway135 5mo agoWhoever thinks Disney/Hollywood cares even a little bit about children is delusional. Obligatory link to Ricky Gervais roast at the Golden Globes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgson2Q3nog https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgson2Q3nog
- cadamsdotcom 5mo ago> "She actually looked at a motion picture and went, 'I get it! He's going to be the villain and they're going to do this'," he recalled. Is there something teachable in making a kid sit through the thing even though they instantly understood front to back? I get it if your goal is learning. Doing the questions in the math book makes the lesson stick. But - when it comes to entertainment - why put a kid through the frustration?
- 6stringmerc 5mo agoAnswer: During development, children are in a condition where their fears are predominant. The world is big and scary and they need conditions and support to begin to process their emotions, all of them, into what I consider a “rainbow.” Each should be adjacent to another, as life is best lived with access to and the benefit of each when appropriate circumstances call them from their “library” so to speak. It’s not “forcing” a child to sit through it, as much as it is “presenting” them with an outside work of art which REFLECTS BACK TO THEM a validation of their experience along different stages of development. One of the best examples of what I’m talking about is the book “Where the Wild Things Are” by Maurice Sendak. It is canon. Perhaps you had shitty parents who didn’t “make you” engage with literature. An interviewer once asked him “Don’t you think the book is too scary for kids?” His reply lambasted the question with “What is wrong with you? Were you never a child? EVERYTHING IS SCARY TO A CHILD.” So, there it is buckaroo. You may not like the tone of my response, but I think your question was phrased in a flippant and pedantic manner to begin with. Fire, meet fire, and you’re welcome.
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- butlike 5mo agoI don't think everything's scary to a child. I think the scary things are. Lots of things are fun and play.
- littlecorner 5mo agoKids like repetition in their media. They often ask to watch the same movie for days/weeks on end, or read the same story every night, or the same story. And if you don't tell it the same way they remind you... Suffice it to say, repetition isn't the same frustration that it can be for adults
- lionkor 5mo agoI'm not a parent, but I have siblings. Screen addiction is a failure of parenting above all else, so is drug abuse and other kind of issues that are rooted in addiction, barring mental illness and bad luck of course. EDIT: Of course parenting is very difficult, and I don't believe that any of it is easy. I wouldn't blame parents for bad parenting, I would blame a system that creates parents that have no time or energy left to spare. I don't know what the solution is, but it probably doesn't help when kids are uneducated, being failed by a system that is supposed to educate them, that maybe the parents trust SHOULD educate them. Ultimately those kids grow up to have kids. Aaaand that's the plot of Idiocracy.
- slumberlust 5mo agoI'd be cautious to dismiss addiction as bad parenting. In many cases its a disease, and not as simple as just coaching or disciplining it away.
- techblueberry 5mo agoI feel like - I dunno, people hate that there are just incentives. I’m moderately disciplined and yet - my level of athleticism is directly related to how far away the trail is from my house. When it was 15 minutes away, I had to drive so my run was 45 minutes. Now I don’t so my run is 1:14. Same discipline, better athleticism. 30 years ago both a good and bad parent could kick their kids out of the house and they’d go get in a bike with the neighborhood kids and explore. Now. It’s soooo much more work to get your kid focused on an activity that’s not a screen, because if you kick them out of the house changes are they’ll just got find a screen (if it’s even legal or socially legitimate to do so anymore). The idea that you can “educate your kids” to ignore all those incentives is bananas. Part of educating your kids should be finding a way to put them in environments to learn themselves, and those ways are increasingly gone. Parents don’t understand the new world as well as their kids. It’s probably illogical for most kids to listen to their parents too much anyways. Which also ignores the fact that kids are inclined to do the opposite of what their parents say. I have no idea what my parent do could have done to keep me from smoking. Educate me on the dangers? They did. To say that all parents got worse in the age of social media and YouTube, and ignoring that the environment fundamentally changed to put so much more ownus on the parents to constantly fight incentives. I don’t know what the solution is, but to call it bad parenting is, I dunno.
- spaqin 5mo agoFunnily enough, even with such emphasis on children, the problem is touching adults as well. And that's completely ignored. Movies in recent years have changed dramatically in subtle ways to work with impatient audience.
- gommm 5mo agoI think that it's been happening for a while. Movies in the 70s and 60s tended to have more pause in the dialogue, more silence than movies in early 2000s. Take a movie like the Godfather, it had a 8.4 seconds average shot length compared to the Departed 3 second average shot length. I've noticed my parents no longer having the patience for movies with longer average shot length despite having been young during the era when movies were less fast paced. [1] https://cinemetrics.uchicago.edu/movie/2732f3f8-f0d4-43f7-a0c7-ff5ccce451d0 https://cinemetrics.uchicago.edu/movie/2732f3f8-f0d4-43f7-a0... [2] https://cinemetrics.uchicago.edu/movie/9d17ce68-0d48-45cc-89dd-7cadd53b293d https://cinemetrics.uchicago.edu/movie/9d17ce68-0d48-45cc-89...
- insane_dreamer 5mo agonot just that, but movie plots are deliberately dumbed down these days (i.e., unnecessary flashbacks or camera pans or dialog to "explain" what is happening)
- ChoGGi 5mo agoFrom Disney? Retirement time Tommy.
- lacker 5mo agoThe next step in my fight against screen addiction is to have my children not watch Toy Story 5.
- throwaway81523 5mo agoStar Trek did it decades earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_...
- pstuart 5mo agoParents of young children should know that the kids need sunlight and to look at distant objects on a regular basis to prevent the development of myopia.