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OpenAI frontier models and Codex are now available on AWS
- Handy-Man 4mo agoMore expensive than directly sourcing from OpenAI
- BoredPositron 4mo agoIt's for people that can easily pump their AWS bill but not a new vendor.
- easton 4mo agoThe AWS pricing page says 10% more than OpenAI, which is probably because they’re forcing all inference through the US and data residency is at a 10% premium from the model vendors for whatever reason (because you’ll pay for it). If they put in a global endpoint like with Claude (or OpenAI directly) then it’ll probably match the direct pricing, if the pattern holds. (https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/pricing/ https://aws.amazon.com/bedrock/pricing/, scroll to OpenAI)
- sokoloff 4mo agoIt also could be to provide room for enterprise discount pricing without it being money-losing for one of the companies.
- yojo 4mo agoI have worked at places that have negotiated flat percentage discounts on all AWS spend. This explanation seems plausible to me.
- cebert 4mo agoIt’s even more expensive for GovCloud customers. We pay a 30% premium on top of that.
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- hmartin 4mo agoWish I could fail hard enough to have a (nearly) $1T startup with some of both the smartest models and smartest people.
- dzbarsky 4mo agoCare to elaborate how OpenAI is failing in your opinion?
- chews 4mo agoSora, TBPN, the Jony Ive boondoggle are a few easy ones.
- cleaning 4mo agoHow is this your reaction to the story?
- _pdp_ 4mo agoAs usual the more options the better for everyone. While this is not a direct replacement it is good that it exists.
- Aurornis 4mo agoIf you are wondering why anyone would spend more money to use these APIs through AWS instead of going direct: In some companies it’s nearly impossible to get new vendors approved. If the company has an AWS contract then you have to use what AWS offers.
- powvans 4mo agoEven if you can get it approved you are adding surface area to your annual security audits, adding another vendor that needs to be disclosed on security assessments, spreading your data to yet another processor, and adding another invoice and budget discussion. Depending on your customer contracts you may need to notify them of a new vendor. This might trigger a new security review. Oh it’s just another model on Bedrock? Bliss.
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- morpheuskafka 4mo agoEvery CEO, board, and middle manager in the world is AI buzzword-obsessed now. Surely asking to sign a contract with the frontier labs directly would not get held up?
- stronglikedan 4mo agoEvery CEO, board, and middle manager in the world still has to go through infosec in large orgs.
- crubier 4mo agoThe hard part is not the CEO, it's the CISO
- qurren 4mo agoIf you're an engineer in the trenches of the company, good luck convincing the people above to sign that contract. You'll waste thousands of hours just trying.
- ykl 4mo agoIf you've used AI coding models in a large corporate setting, you'll know that a lot of big corporate deployments basically require using AWS Bedrock for two simple reasons: 1. Large companies tend to already have an existing relationship with AWS, which makes things way easier to go through vs. setting up a new vendor relationship 2. Large companies tend to have strong internal requirements about making sure that internal data stays under company control. With AWS Bedrock, you can be a lot more confident that what you're feeding into the models is not going to end up in someone's training set somewhere. For where I work, this requirement is a dealbreaker for going directly through OpenAI's API instead of going through AWS Bedrock.
- rho138 4mo agoHow is one certain bedrock data isn’t being shuttled to external providers?
- cortesoft 4mo agoContracts and the force of law?
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- SOLAR_FIELDS 4mo agoActually yes, when it’s other huge corporations holding them accountable. It’s only when politicians who are much more cheaply bought get involved that creates problems. When the other side has a significant war chest to combat you with, suddenly behavior improves
- ch4s3 4mo agoAny sufficiently large company will be prepared to fight this out in court where Amazon would eventually lose.
- phillipcarter 4mo agoAbsolutely huge news for OpenAI. Unimaginable amount of enterprises picked up Claude just because it was available in AWS, and now there's serious competition.
- ai-x 4mo agoExactly. Sam may lose on Product capabilities, but never on Deals.
- AgentOrange1234 4mo agoThis is great news. I wish they were keeping their other models updated. With Gemma 4 and Qwen 3.7 already available on OpenRouter, bedrock is just not keeping up at all.
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- 2001zhaozhao 4mo agoGood news for competition. Claude Code keeps omitting new features from people using it through Amazon Bedrock (e.g. auto mode, ultra plan, Claude for Chrome). Hopefully some more competition can get them to rethink their strategy.
- chrisballinger 4mo agoAuto mode works on Bedrock now!
- Manouchehri 4mo agoIt's so odd, because Claude models on Amazon Bedrock do support all those features. For awhile now, I've had a api.anthropic.com emulator that "secretly" forwards requests to Amazon Bedrock. Works great and now I get all the nice first-party only features right away.
- kube-system 4mo agoIs that anything you could share?
- iandanforth 4mo agoThis is a great move for OpenAI and one that should worry Anthropic. Bedrock was the only way I could use foundation models for a while given AWS lock-in and security requirements.
- onion2k 4mo agoClaude is already available as both a pass-through to Anthropic's servers from AWS and in Bedrock. https://aws.amazon.com/claude-platform/ https://aws.amazon.com/claude-platform/ I imagine they're not thrilled that their first mover advantage has gone now, but they'll have seen it coming a mile off.
- kylemaxwell 4mo agoEvery time somebody questions why you might "trust" AWS (or Azure or GCP or whatever), or why you'd pay this premium, I realize they are not accustomed to working in enterprise environments. In my case, I work at a large enterprise with strict data governance built into customer contracts, and (partly related, partly not) our own governance concerns. Using vendors where you not only have infosec permission, but they are also listed as data processors in our contracts with our customers is the way not to get fired and sued. If I'm playing around at home, with my own code and data, I can do whatever I want. But with my employer and customer? Absolutely not. It's the same reason we don't use whatever is the flavor of the month frontier model is. Side hustles and startups just have an entirely different set of constraints and considerations.
- sntran 4mo agoI have just moved from a free environment in which I was able to use any AI harnesses or models to a strict enterprise environment. I was shocked to realize how difficult it has been to have a GitHub CoPilot license on Azure. I mean, they're both Microsoft products. But no, the IT now has to figure out how to set up a GitHub enterprise, link to Azure subscription, and all that.
- philipwhiuk 4mo agoand set reasonable global and user token limits to avoid burning a year's IT spend cause Dave in Legal went ham on tokenmaxxing by uploading his entire legal case history. in a company of 12 you can do that by saying 'we're all generalists, just don't be an idiot'. In a company of 10,000, you hired Dave cause he's good at legal merger mumbo jumbo not because he's an IT generalist.
- foolfoolz 4mo agowhile true, everyone signed this same data privacy agreement with anthropic / openai a long tiem ago
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- gordonhart 4mo agoAre they? I don't see them in the Model Catalog on Bedrock.
- jgbuddy 4mo agogreat for consumers, great for OpenAI, great for Amazon, not so great for MS / Azure (seems like they don't care anyways)
- rohansood15 4mo agoAnthropic better get that IPO out soon. Their incredible revenue run-up was basically a result of botched Gemini releases and OpenAI having their hands-tied behind their Azure backs. Anthropic models were quite literally the only viable serverless API (i.e. Bedrock) models on AWS. They didn't even bother releasing the recent Qwen 3.5/3.6 series. Combined with the token efficiency/ROI focus, I would really like to see how Antrhopic ends Q3.
- chasd00 4mo agoSucks for Azure. They were the chosen one but couldn’t keep up with demand. Once OpenAI got out of that exclusivity deal saying Azure wasn’t reliable I knew AWS was where they were headed.
- hooch 4mo agoNo 5.5 Pro
- whatever1 4mo agoFrontier labs provide “frozen” builds of their models that hyperscalers just serve without collecting data. This is a prerequisite from most of the companies that store sensitive data and still want to use frontier LLMS.
- chopete3 4mo agoThis is the best thing to happen to AwS. Aws won't push their junk Bedrock equivalents at least. Enterprises can focus on paying for AWS OpenAI models and get going.
- notatoad 4mo agoTheir “junk bedrock equivalents” like opus?
- retinaros 4mo agoI guess he meant nova models? Which are definitely not even on the same table than thsoe models so its irrelevant
- chopete3 4mo agoYes. The Nova models.
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- CSMastermind 4mo agoOne of the most attractive things a company can offer its engineers right now is a large token/compute budget.
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- shay_ker 4mo agoIt's fascinating that cloud providers like AWS/GCP/Azure are now immovable "enterprise" technologies, in the way that IBM, Oracle, SAP, etc. were 15 years ago (and still are!). Fond memories when only startups used S3 and EC2.... It's both an incredible triumph and tremendously sad that cloud providers are now the dinosaurs. So many companies are locked in, just as they were before. It's only going to get worse. I wish the "cloud" was more fungible.
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- MagicMoonlight 4mo agoBut their contract with Microslop prevents this?!?!? They specifically said like a month ago that they wouldn’t sell API access on AWS, they would only release specific products.
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- aifusenno1 4mo agoDo they use Trainium/Inferentia?
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- epicepicurean 4mo agoany explanation of why the context window is only 272K?
- ai_slop_hater 4mo agoGoogle apparently has custom chips that allow them to have the 1m context window.
- ElenaDaibunny 4mo agowas only a matter of time. enterprise teams on aws werent going to rearchitect their stack just for model access, easier to bring the models to where the workloads already are
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- daft_pink 4mo agoAnd the giant ai circle continues
- sinanguckiran 4mo agoFINALLY.
- timwis 4mo agoWe have some enterprise customers who require all data be processed in the UK or AU. We've been limited to using Azure OpenAI, which only has older models in those regions (eg 4o, 4.1-mini). I was hoping we'd see the newer models in those regions once they got to AWS, but it looks like the newer models are only available in the US at the moment :(
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