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err, # Have at least 1 year of experience with Ruby / Rails. # Have experience with MySQL and JavaScript If you're really seeking a lead developer - I'd chang

by pclark 18y ago

err, # Have at least 1 year of experience with Ruby / Rails. # Have experience with MySQL and JavaScript If you're really seeking a lead developer - I'd change that to at least 5 years of developing web apps, with around 3 in ruby.

fallen 18y ago
maybe my mistake, i went from engineering founder to "lead developer" as that is my role in my 9-5. i imagine that they are looking for a founder who runs the engineering side of the house, not just a lead dev. the positions are probably similar, but not he same.
gaius 18y ago
There are people around now who can legitimately claim 15 years professional web experience. This isn't the 1990s - the bar to claim to be "experienced" is as high as it ever was in the pre-web development world.
mpk 18y ago
> If you're really seeking a lead developer - I'd change that to at least 5 years of developing web apps, with around 3 in ruby. Oh pfffff, I say. If you're hiring someone to do something they've already done before, you're missing the point. We took on a Haskell programmer to lead our C# development side, a network hacker to lead our JavaScript work and a (CS) student to lead our Java application server side. I strongly suggest you re-define what you're looking for in a 'lead developer'. Ability, talent, enthusiasm and team-management are high on my list.
- kaens 18y ago
  Well sure, but it seems to me that if someone is already competent in haskell, or has done some serious networking work on their own, then they've already demonstrated that they're worth hiring, and that they'll probably be able to work with whatever you need them to. This is different than looking for someone with 1 year of experience in ruby. The combination of short amount of time and some conflation of ruby and ruby-on-rails in the general populace could lead to a whole lot of incompetent (or inexperienced enough that it would drag the whole project down) devs being attracted to the job. That is not to say that I think that 5 years of experience developing web apps and 3 in ruby is much of a better metric - as you said, (demonstrated) ability, talent, and enthusiasm are much more important than x years in y.

by pclark 18y ago

fallen 18y ago

maybe my mistake, i went from engineering founder to "lead developer" as that is my role in my 9-5. i imagine that they are looking for a founder who runs the engineering side of the house, not just a lead dev. the positions are probably similar, but not he same.

gaius 18y ago

There are people around now who can legitimately claim 15 years professional web experience. This isn't the 1990s - the bar to claim to be "experienced" is as high as it ever was in the pre-web development world.

mpk 18y ago

> If you're really seeking a lead developer - I'd change that to at least 5 years of developing web apps, with around 3 in ruby. Oh pfffff, I say. If you're hiring someone to do something they've already done before, you're missing the point. We took on a Haskell programmer to lead our C# development side, a network hacker to lead our JavaScript work and a (CS) student to lead our Java application server side. I strongly suggest you re-define what you're looking for in a 'lead developer'. Ability, talent, enthusiasm and team-management are high on my list.

kaens 18y ago
Well sure, but it seems to me that if someone is already competent in haskell, or has done some serious networking work on their own, then they've already demonstrated that they're worth hiring, and that they'll probably be able to work with whatever you need them to. This is different than looking for someone with 1 year of experience in ruby. The combination of short amount of time and some conflation of ruby and ruby-on-rails in the general populace could lead to a whole lot of incompetent (or inexperienced enough that it would drag the whole project down) devs being attracted to the job. That is not to say that I think that 5 years of experience developing web apps and 3 in ruby is much of a better metric - as you said, (demonstrated) ability, talent, and enthusiasm are much more important than x years in y.