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Fish are not people and you’re projecting on to them. Do we need to start with whether you eat meat or own pets?
by groundzeros2015 5mo ago
Fish are not people and you’re projecting on to them. Do we need to start with whether you eat meat or own pets?
- boston_clone 5mo agoAnimals other than humans feel pain and do tend to avoid it. And nope, no eating meat for me (and like half a billion other people). It’s both easier and more empowering than one might think!
- groundzeros2015 5mo agoGreat, then this really isn’t a debate about fishing. We completely disagree about the roles of animals in our life.
- boston_clone 5mo agoI’m sure we both have cared for and loved animals at some point! There’s nothing wrong with recognizing that a fish can feel pain much like a cat or a dog or a rabbit or a horse.
- groundzeros2015 5mo agoSure. And I think your lifestyle is a valid and respectable choice. Angling is just far downstream of topics to look at!
- ryoshoe 5mo agoCan an insect feel pain? What about a mushroom, or a plant? What things are conscious enough to feel pain? I'm genuinely asking because I because it seems arbitrary as to where the line gets drawn. Before the 1980s it was the medical consensus that babies weren't capable of feeling pain even though this is now widely recognized as untrue.
- boston_clone 5mo agoI don't think the line is quite so arbitrary! Virtually all animals (with a few exceptions!) have a central nervous system, which is required to "feel" pain, to my understanding. The good news is that we can adapt our thinking and behavior in light of new evidence.