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Trump attacked Iran because Israel was going to attack Iran: Rubio says US struck Iran fearing it would retaliate for Israeli attack - https://abcnews.com/Polit

Trump attacked Iran because Israel was going to attack Iran: Rubio says US struck Iran fearing it would retaliate for Israeli attack - https://abcnews.com/Politics/rubio-us-struck-iran-fearing-retaliate-israeli-attack/story?id=130694505 https://abcnews.com/Politics/rubio-us-struck-iran-fearing-re... Part of a long trend: Israeli Operatives Who Aided Harvey Weinstein Collected Information on Former Obama Administration Officials to undermine the Iran Nuclear Deal - https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/israeli-operatives-who-aided-harvey-weinstein-collected-information-on-former-obama-administration-officials https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/israeli-operatives-... To help make the case on Iran, Graham traveled several times to Israel in recent weeks, meeting with members of the country’s intelligence agency. “They’ll tell me things our own government won’t tell me,” he said. He spoke with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, coaching him on how to lobby the president for action. - https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/lindsey-graham-trump-iran-fa5f54f0 https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/lindsey-graham-trump-ira... (https://archive.is/G1Dt0 https://archive.is/G1Dt0) Netanyahu started this war by attacking Iran. He assassinated Ali Shamkhani, Iran’s lead nuclear negotiator, deliberately sabotaging US-Iran nuclear negotiations. - https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1934659864610918435 https://x.com/BernieSanders/status/1934659864610918435 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Shamkhani#Assassination_attempt_and_death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Shamkhani#Assassination_at...)

orwin 5mo ago
> Trump attacked Iran because Israel was going to attack Iran When Israel attacked Iran in 2025, Iran was very, very clear that they did not consider it an attack from the US and did not retaliate against US assets. The US choose to support israel with intel and weapons, and Iran still didn't strike at US interests. Then the US joined forces with israel to push for bigger concessions from Iran just before the ceasefire (that the US broke 8 month later, once again during peace talks). So do not act as if Israel pushed the US into this war. This was a political and strategical choice the US made, and you should own it. People who were silent on the 2025 bombardment and are now saying "we shouldn't fight Israel war" are to me hypocrites.
- like_any_other 5mo ago
  Oh I'm not saying Israel's decision to attack Iran forced the US to join in on strategic or self-defense grounds. I'm saying it forced them because the US does whatever Israel tells them. That is why both US lead negotiators with Iran are Jewish [1], why US congressmen have Israeli flags outside their offices [2], why Nancy Pelosi said the #1 priority in the Capitol is Israel [3], why Netanyahu gets 3 straight minutes of applause when he starts his speech in Congress (and lots of applause interruptions later) [4]. Because when 50% of donations to the Democratic party, and 25% of donations to the Republican party, are from Jewish sources [5], it can't be any other way. [1] In practice, critical negotiations, with Iran and elsewhere, have been put in the hands of two people, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, with close personal relationships with the president and obvious economic stakes in the relevant conflicts. - https://snyder.substack.com/p/on-superpower-suicide https://snyder.substack.com/p/on-superpower-suicide [2] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2qjLaSyAWj8 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2qjLaSyAWj8 [3] if this Capitol crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain would be our commitment to our aid, I don’t even call it our aid, our cooperation with Israel. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LmnQRnw8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LmnQRnw8I [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6XZKE7a_F4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6XZKE7a_F4 [5] https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/us-jews-contribute-half-of-all-donations-to-the-democratic-party-468774 https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/us-jews-contribute-half-o...
  - jmye 5mo ago
    Conflating “Jewish” with “loves and supports Netanyahu” is a bald-faced antisemitic trope. Pretending Kushner’s bullshit has anything to do with being a Jew and not being willing to sell anyone or anything for a dollar is just silly. The pro-Israel group is just as likely, maybe moreso given the current administration and the people like Thiel running it, to be apocalyptic Christians, trying to bring on their own idiotic vision of the end times.
    - like_any_other 5mo ago
      > Conflating “Jewish” with “loves and supports Netanyahu” is a bald-faced antisemitic trope. I guess "Jewish has nothing to do with support for the Jewish state" would have sounded too silly, so you used Netanyahu instead. Luckily we have opinion polls to prove the "trope" true: https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/646214/support-israel-hampered-declining-religiosity.aspx https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/646214/suppo... The group with the most sympathy for Israel, and least for Palestine, is, unsurprisingly, Jewish.

orwin 5mo ago

> Trump attacked Iran because Israel was going to attack Iran When Israel attacked Iran in 2025, Iran was very, very clear that they did not consider it an attack from the US and did not retaliate against US assets. The US choose to support israel with intel and weapons, and Iran still didn't strike at US interests. Then the US joined forces with israel to push for bigger concessions from Iran just before the ceasefire (that the US broke 8 month later, once again during peace talks). So do not act as if Israel pushed the US into this war. This was a political and strategical choice the US made, and you should own it. People who were silent on the 2025 bombardment and are now saying "we shouldn't fight Israel war" are to me hypocrites.

like_any_other 5mo ago
Oh I'm not saying Israel's decision to attack Iran forced the US to join in on strategic or self-defense grounds. I'm saying it forced them because the US does whatever Israel tells them. That is why both US lead negotiators with Iran are Jewish [1], why US congressmen have Israeli flags outside their offices [2], why Nancy Pelosi said the #1 priority in the Capitol is Israel [3], why Netanyahu gets 3 straight minutes of applause when he starts his speech in Congress (and lots of applause interruptions later) [4]. Because when 50% of donations to the Democratic party, and 25% of donations to the Republican party, are from Jewish sources [5], it can't be any other way. [1] In practice, critical negotiations, with Iran and elsewhere, have been put in the hands of two people, Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner, with close personal relationships with the president and obvious economic stakes in the relevant conflicts. - https://snyder.substack.com/p/on-superpower-suicide https://snyder.substack.com/p/on-superpower-suicide [2] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2qjLaSyAWj8 https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2qjLaSyAWj8 [3] if this Capitol crumbled to the ground, the one thing that would remain would be our commitment to our aid, I don’t even call it our aid, our cooperation with Israel. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LmnQRnw8I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1LmnQRnw8I [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6XZKE7a_F4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6XZKE7a_F4 [5] https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/us-jews-contribute-half-of-all-donations-to-the-democratic-party-468774 https://www.jpost.com/us-elections/us-jews-contribute-half-o...
- jmye 5mo ago
  Conflating “Jewish” with “loves and supports Netanyahu” is a bald-faced antisemitic trope. Pretending Kushner’s bullshit has anything to do with being a Jew and not being willing to sell anyone or anything for a dollar is just silly. The pro-Israel group is just as likely, maybe moreso given the current administration and the people like Thiel running it, to be apocalyptic Christians, trying to bring on their own idiotic vision of the end times.
  - like_any_other 5mo ago
    > Conflating “Jewish” with “loves and supports Netanyahu” is a bald-faced antisemitic trope. I guess "Jewish has nothing to do with support for the Jewish state" would have sounded too silly, so you used Netanyahu instead. Luckily we have opinion polls to prove the "trope" true: https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/646214/support-israel-hampered-declining-religiosity.aspx https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/646214/suppo... The group with the most sympathy for Israel, and least for Palestine, is, unsurprisingly, Jewish.