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that's nuts, unless I'm missing something, it doesn't seem like those products are that mind blowingly complex... wow. Makes we want to try building my own for
by progforlyfe 4mo ago
that's nuts, unless I'm missing something, it doesn't seem like those products are that mind blowingly complex... wow. Makes we want to try building my own for the hell of it.
Downdetector in fact just seems to be a website catalog with essentially a guestbook and hit counter...
- kingleopold 4mo agodont miss it, its almost all about users and revenue not how complex or simple product is.
- fontain 4mo agoOokla has huge amounts of data, speedtest’s software is integrated into networks and used by hundreds of millions of users, they have the most comprehensive information about internet connections. You can recreate the software but you can’t recreate the data without decades of integration into what seems like every network. https://www.ookla.com/ https://www.ookla.com/ You can see an overview of the data they collect and sell on the corporate website
- rozenmd 4mo agothe best part is Downdetector is inaccurate as hell - if AWS is genuinely down, folks get curious and search other providers, causing Downdetector to mark them as down too
- tjoff 4mo agoJust searching surely does not mark them as down?
- Xenoamorphous 4mo agoIt does.
- NetMageSCW 4mo agoEvidence?
- progforlyfe 4mo agoI don't have any proof but it sounds plausible; they also have an interactive button (does not require any login), so it could be that they rank the interactive event higher, but still count plain views as something. I'd say it's a fair indicator at least on a basic level.
- jedberg 4mo agoThat's exactly how it works. The website is just a counter of how many people landed on the page searching for "is $X down"
- tjoff 4mo agoI don't know but I really doubt that. When you search for a service you get the current status and you get the option to report a problem. The minimal you expect from such a service is to keep track of how many % of users are searching also reports an error. There might of course still be errors but that alone surely can't be it. But please correct me if I'm wrong. edit: and their own description only mentions actual reports https://downdetector.com/methodology/ https://downdetector.com/methodology/
- Seattle3503 4mo agoThe valuation must be outside of the tech. Are there relationships or contracts Accenture is getting access to?
- thefourthchime 4mo agoit must be
- awakeasleep 4mo agoor overlapping board members who are essentially paying themselves
- cortesoft 4mo agoClearly. They are buying all the servers that are already imbedded in ISP networks.
- adammarples 4mo agoYou don't pay to use ookla speed test, so your data is the product. That data gets sold.
- dyauspitr 4mo agoThe valuation is the name recognition and that that’s where people go to do those things
- eddythompson80 4mo agoOf course they are not complex. They do have a network effect though. If you go to your local ISP and say “hey, my 500mbps plan is only doing 100mbps on Speedtest.net”, they’ll “fix it” (usually by working with Ookla to put an edge endpoint on their network) If you tell the “hey frankyspeeddetect.com isn’t doing my 500mbps” they’ll tell you to it’s an issue with that random website. ISPs and services reach out to Ookla to onboard with them because they have a network effect/mindshare of whatever you wanna call it
- fragmede 4mo agohttp://speed.cloudflare.com http://speed.cloudflare.com is a bit harder to argue with though.
- tverbeure 4mo agoThe difference is that until now I had never heard of speed.cloudflare.com before. (I know about fast.com though.)
- cheema33 4mo agoI had not heard of http://speed.cloudflare.com http://speed.cloudflare.com either. I just tried it and I did not get accurate numbers. wifiman.com, from Ubiquiti/Unifi team does provide more accurate numbers. fast.com numbers are pretty accurate as well.
- guessbest 4mo agoThat's a lot of money just for network topography, but may someone let them in and it has a whole map of an otherwise hidden or inaccessible network.
- kobalsky 4mo agospeedtest has a lot of volunteers hosting local servers, which you need to do a good last mile speed test. that capilarity is not something you can achieve overnight.
- maccard 4mo agoYou’re not paying for the tech, you’re paying for the name and the users. Speedyest claims 40m unique users per month.
- sowbug 4mo agothefacebook.com was developed in a few days, too. The value was never in the code.
- UqWBcuFx6NV4r 4mo agoThe fact that you think that the code is all that material here is exactly why you aren’t the person to be doing this. Go right ahead. ZIR SV culture has built multiple generations of nerds that think that they can just effortlessly become billionaires. Ridiculous brain rot.