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This is so unamerican. Giving stuff away for free is really bad. Teach a man to fish instead. Or rather, the man should be trying to learn to fish. It just feel

This is so unamerican. Giving stuff away for free is really bad. Teach a man to fish instead. Or rather, the man should be trying to learn to fish. It just feels so bad. Like spoiling a child. If you really want to help somebody you must really make them work for it with blood and sweat. Otherwise they will not appreciate it. And they will teach their children (sub-consciously) to just wait for the next billionaire to give them something.

logn 14y ago
He's giving it to his employees who presumably have worked for it with "blood and sweat". An alternative would be passing it down through inheritance or selling to a bidder, neither of whom invest blood or sweat. So, to your point, he's doing exactly what you say he should
- sdfasdfa 14y ago
  >>He's giving it to his employees who presumably have worked for it with "blood and sweat" No they didn't. They were getting paid already for the value they provided to the company. Do not delude yourself, this is nothing more than a handout. >>An alternative would be passing it down through inheritance or selling to a bidder, neither of whom invest blood or sweat. So you are OK with some employees receiving a gift and you oppose the heirs receiving that same gift. Of course I'm opposed to just giving stuff away, but if you have to then leaving it to your heirs makes more sense from an evolutionary point of view. Another option, if you really want to give away your money, is to create jobs for people with nothing to do. This way they will earn that money instead of just receiving a gift. For example, fund public works and pay people who you want to help to do that job. Pay them reasonably even. Maybe even include education benefits. Isn't this a better option than just handing somebody free money? If those people do not want to do these jobs then they do not deserve the money. I'm really curious why would anybody disagree with me. Of course, there are always exceptions. There are people in the world that truly need free money. Example orphans, the elderly, disabled people. People who even if they wanted to work they simply can't. My logic is undeniable, how can you oppose anything I say? At the end of the day though we are all free to do with our money what we want. Still, I cannot help but hurt when I see money just being wasted away by giving it to people who have not earned it (heirs excluded of course). Edit: Thanks for answering. I really do believe I'm right so it is nice to have somebody explain why that may not be so instead of just getting down voted (which I don't mind). If more people could try explaining why they disagree with me that'd be great. I really want to hear why anybody thinks I'm wrong. Maybe I am wrong. I'm willing to change my mind if there is a good reason.
  - schrodinger 14y ago
    Why "heirs excluded"? I don't understand the logic by which it's only ok to give money to your descendants... wouldn't that hurt them just the same in your worldview?
    - Avshalom 14y ago
      It's almost certainly a troll, just downvote it till it gets hellbanned and move on.
      - sdfasdfa 14y ago
        I'm not. Just because I do not agree with the masses doesn't mean I'm wrong. You sound more like a troll by your comment. You would probably call Galileo a troll simply by saying that the earth was not the center of the universe. I'm serious, I really do not see the error in my logic. Your ad hominem comment adds nothing to the discussion.
      - schrodinger 14y ago
        Yea yea, but trying to give the benefit of the doubt... the last statement in their comment did indicate that they were open to changing their mind.
    - sdfasdfa 14y ago
      No. It should not. What will hurt them is how you raise them (By heirs I'm talking about children). Give them the best education money can buy and beyond the essentials (food, roof, clothes) make them work for whatever else they want. Want a car? Get a summer job. Want a new video game console? Do some extra chores. Want extra money for your date? A job in the weekends would not be bad. Do you get my point? By the time they inherit money they will learn not to depend on it. It all depends on how you raise them. If you do a crappy job to begin with then even with no money they will probably be screw. Tell me I'm wrong.
      - schrodinger 14y ago

logn 14y ago

He's giving it to his employees who presumably have worked for it with "blood and sweat". An alternative would be passing it down through inheritance or selling to a bidder, neither of whom invest blood or sweat. So, to your point, he's doing exactly what you say he should

sdfasdfa 14y ago
>>He's giving it to his employees who presumably have worked for it with "blood and sweat" No they didn't. They were getting paid already for the value they provided to the company. Do not delude yourself, this is nothing more than a handout. >>An alternative would be passing it down through inheritance or selling to a bidder, neither of whom invest blood or sweat. So you are OK with some employees receiving a gift and you oppose the heirs receiving that same gift. Of course I'm opposed to just giving stuff away, but if you have to then leaving it to your heirs makes more sense from an evolutionary point of view. Another option, if you really want to give away your money, is to create jobs for people with nothing to do. This way they will earn that money instead of just receiving a gift. For example, fund public works and pay people who you want to help to do that job. Pay them reasonably even. Maybe even include education benefits. Isn't this a better option than just handing somebody free money? If those people do not want to do these jobs then they do not deserve the money. I'm really curious why would anybody disagree with me. Of course, there are always exceptions. There are people in the world that truly need free money. Example orphans, the elderly, disabled people. People who even if they wanted to work they simply can't. My logic is undeniable, how can you oppose anything I say? At the end of the day though we are all free to do with our money what we want. Still, I cannot help but hurt when I see money just being wasted away by giving it to people who have not earned it (heirs excluded of course). Edit: Thanks for answering. I really do believe I'm right so it is nice to have somebody explain why that may not be so instead of just getting down voted (which I don't mind). If more people could try explaining why they disagree with me that'd be great. I really want to hear why anybody thinks I'm wrong. Maybe I am wrong. I'm willing to change my mind if there is a good reason.
- schrodinger 14y ago
  Why "heirs excluded"? I don't understand the logic by which it's only ok to give money to your descendants... wouldn't that hurt them just the same in your worldview?
  - Avshalom 14y ago
    It's almost certainly a troll, just downvote it till it gets hellbanned and move on.
    - sdfasdfa 14y ago
      I'm not. Just because I do not agree with the masses doesn't mean I'm wrong. You sound more like a troll by your comment. You would probably call Galileo a troll simply by saying that the earth was not the center of the universe. I'm serious, I really do not see the error in my logic. Your ad hominem comment adds nothing to the discussion.
    - schrodinger 14y ago
      Yea yea, but trying to give the benefit of the doubt... the last statement in their comment did indicate that they were open to changing their mind.
  - sdfasdfa 14y ago
    No. It should not. What will hurt them is how you raise them (By heirs I'm talking about children). Give them the best education money can buy and beyond the essentials (food, roof, clothes) make them work for whatever else they want. Want a car? Get a summer job. Want a new video game console? Do some extra chores. Want extra money for your date? A job in the weekends would not be bad. Do you get my point? By the time they inherit money they will learn not to depend on it. It all depends on how you raise them. If you do a crappy job to begin with then even with no money they will probably be screw. Tell me I'm wrong.
    - schrodinger 14y ago