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Are you suggesting opening every package to check for a CE? I think fining after the fact is how those laws are enforced.
by MobiusHorizons 4mo ago
Are you suggesting opening every package to check for a CE? I think fining after the fact is how those laws are enforced.
- GJim 4mo ago> Are you suggesting opening every package to check for a CE? In the old days, when an importer purchased Chinese goods in bulk and resold them, import checks were commonplace.... AND the importer was legally responsible for paying import duties and selling goods to the public that were legal and met safety standards. Now that any individual can order direct from China (with cheap subsidised postage!), the floodgates of untaxed and dangerous shite are open. One solution is to address the subsidised postage that makes this state of affairs possible.
- lokar 4mo agoRequire the recipient affirm the package meets all legal requirements, and personally assume liability for any violation.
- mc32 4mo agoThat’s unworkable: asking a recipient unfamiliar with producers to know whether producer is reputable or not in advance and if the producer is unscrupulous you expect every affected buyer to follow up or be in violation of importation laws?
- lokar 4mo agoIf you are not sure, buy from within the EU from an importer who deals with this. The old system of spot inspections worked because most import volume was from known, repeat importers.
- mc32 4mo agoI think thats asking much from people some of whom easily get scammed by phone banks in Eastern Europe, India etc. many people will not put in that effort.
- victorbjorklund 4mo agoSo consumers should just pay for a random import company to ”pinky promise” that it is safe? It is well known that most of the crap that is CE hasn’t actually gone through a million euro testing program. It’s just a stamp. And if something happens then well that LLC goes bankrupt (but odds are low)
- lokar 4mo agoLicense importers? Have them audited, post a bond, etc?
- victorbjorklund 4mo agoCE is self certification for most part. It’s just the seller saying ”yea, I promise it is safe”. Should consumers have to post a bond to receive a package from abroad?
- victorbjorklund 4mo agoSo hold the consumer liable for laws meant to protect the consumer?
- miohtama 4mo agoHolding a consumer liable for the broken crap they order would be just, but political infeasible as long as there is someone else to blame.
- victorbjorklund 4mo agoWhy even have consumer laws then if consumers are punished if their Samsung phone explodes?
- miohtama 4mo agoIt depends if Samsung is imported by a consumer or a company that takes liability
- victorbjorklund 4mo agoSo pretty much just pay for the stamp from a shell company that will shield the legal risk? So just more expensive for consumers and more profit for lawyers that can just set up single purpose shell companies to sign off on the import?
- manoDev 4mo agoI see, the issue is those parcels are mailed directly, not from a logistics operation already inside EU borders. In my country the government is pushing those companies to have local warehouses. So if items are bulk imported by the marketplace, in theory it should be easier to inspect.