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The inside looks so freaking cool: https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce-design https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce-design Look at those

by Mashimo 4mo ago

The inside looks so freaking cool: https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce-design https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/auto/ferrari-luce-design Look at those tactile buttons and knobs. For cruise control and wipers. And the flip switches for Infotainment / climate. The "LUNCH" mode button that you have to pull and then shows a glowing ring. Feels 90s science fiction. I wonder if I can 3D print a replica, not sure for what yet, but I want it. It's literally inspiring for me. The outside though :(

jonplackett 4mo ago
I think all cars should have a ‘LUNCH’ button. It can be sponsored by Uber Eats and whenever you press it, it automatically orders a burger to your current GPS co-ordinates.
- shalmanese 4mo ago
  Americans when describing their ideal car interior: "Imagine a burger ordering button".
  - jonplackett 4mo ago
    It sounds like it should be in that car Homer Simpson designed, although I guess it would order doughnuts in this case
embedding-shape 4mo ago
> Look at those tactile buttons and knobs. For cruise control and wipers. And the flip switches for Infotainment / climate. Are we looking at the same images? The steering wheel (https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/ferrari/bc62ad44-f5e1-4f22-b3ca-b3cd56ebe557/bocxuw/std/0x0/bc62ad44-f5e1-4f22-b3ca-b3cd56ebe557?breakpoint=961&type=original https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/ferrari/...) has a bunch of switches, yeah, but the Infotainment/climate (https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/ferrari/b39f75f6-6829-48d6-a259-a31695d9af39/bocxuw/std/0x0/b39f75f6-6829-48d6-a259-a31695d9af39?breakpoint=961&type=original https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/ferrari/...) seems to be all touchscreen buttons on the huge iPad-like device in the middle? Like most modern cars, it looks incredibly difficult to use and outright dangerous.
- bob001 4mo ago
  Those aren't touch screen buttons. Clear in any non-frontal image of which there's plenty.
  - embedding-shape 4mo ago
    You're right, the image seemed to kind of hide this. Seems this "video" with some perspective change makes it a lot more clearer what's going on: https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/static/MXY2SL_Control_Panel_16_9_v02_45Z5UW.mp4 https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/static/MXY2SL_Control_Panel_16... Seems to still depend on some state that they show on the display, makes it seems like you still need to hit "invisible" buttons in the iPad UI to start setting the temperature with the hardware "lever", kind of defeating the purpose. But maybe again it's just the website/images/videos being unclear.
    - darkwater 4mo ago
      I guess there is probably some easy and "no look" way to go to some default state where you control temperature etc. If you start fiddling with songs etc it's been distracting since forever anyway, physical knobs or not. Fine-tuning the frequency knob to get rid of the noise was always distracting.
    - Mashimo 4mo ago
      Yeah, climate on/off seems to be a touchscreen button. Hopefully you can activate it by changing the temperature. Or maybe double pressing the "climate" physical button.
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jorvi 4mo ago
Are we looking at the same interior? It is ugly as sin. Looks like a mockup render that is going to need ten more iterations to look good.
- Mashimo 4mo ago
  If you want to discuss it, maybe explain it? I like tactile knobs and switches. I can see my self enjoying using them, similar to a fidget toy. Or an earbuds case that you can close with a satisfying SNAP. Look at the infotainment, you have the handle bar thing that you can feel and thus rest your hand vertically. But instead of just a row of flip switches, in the middle you have the depressed button and a wheel. All of this helps using it without taking your eyes of the road. I don't have a way with words, but there is also something about the instruments cluster. Looks cool I guess. Reminds me of 80s / 90s Mercedes maybe? Shows everything without being too much.
  - amelius 4mo ago
    > I like tactile knobs and switches. You're not the only one. Users have been screaming for tactile buttons for about a decade or more now. Mercedes recently switched to tactile buttons and more expected to follow. But regarding this car, did you check where it says "CONTROL PANEL" in your link? It is still a flat screen ... Anyway, none of this looks revolutionary to me. Whether you think it is aesthetically pleasing or not (I do not).
    - Mashimo 4mo ago
      > "CONTROL PANEL" in your link? It is still a flat screen ... Yes, it has 9 or so physical buttons. Those are the ones I talked about in the post you are replaying to. As long as you can most needed tasks by buttons I'm fine also having a touchscreen. Just judging my the images it seems the climate On/Off is touchscreen only. Even though you can control temperature by buttons. Could be that you can enable / disable it via other means. (Double click climate or whatever) > none of this looks revolutionary to me. Yeah same. But then again I have no idea what was revolutionary in car dashboards. Maybe GPS navigation?
ryandrake 4mo ago
> The outside though :( The exterior of basically all cars from Hyundai up to (now) Ferarri is currently stuck at some kind of aerodynamic / fuel efficiency local maximum that dictates that they all look like the same boring bar of soap. Nobody seems willing to budge on this and climb down the hill even a bit. As problematic (quality-wise) as the Cybertruck is, at least they went full-send on the design. It might look ugly but at least they tried to not make it look like every other truck on the market.

by Mashimo 4mo ago

jonplackett 4mo ago

I think all cars should have a ‘LUNCH’ button. It can be sponsored by Uber Eats and whenever you press it, it automatically orders a burger to your current GPS co-ordinates.

shalmanese 4mo ago
Americans when describing their ideal car interior: "Imagine a burger ordering button".
- jonplackett 4mo ago
  It sounds like it should be in that car Homer Simpson designed, although I guess it would order doughnuts in this case

embedding-shape 4mo ago

> Look at those tactile buttons and knobs. For cruise control and wipers. And the flip switches for Infotainment / climate. Are we looking at the same images? The steering wheel (https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/ferrari/bc62ad44-f5e1-4f22-b3ca-b3cd56ebe557/bocxuw/std/0x0/bc62ad44-f5e1-4f22-b3ca-b3cd56ebe557?breakpoint=961&type=original https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/ferrari/...) has a bunch of switches, yeah, but the Infotainment/climate (https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/ferrari/b39f75f6-6829-48d6-a259-a31695d9af39/bocxuw/std/0x0/b39f75f6-6829-48d6-a259-a31695d9af39?breakpoint=961&type=original https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/delivery/public/image/ferrari/...) seems to be all touchscreen buttons on the huge iPad-like device in the middle? Like most modern cars, it looks incredibly difficult to use and outright dangerous.

bob001 4mo ago
Those aren't touch screen buttons. Clear in any non-frontal image of which there's plenty.
- embedding-shape 4mo ago
  You're right, the image seemed to kind of hide this. Seems this "video" with some perspective change makes it a lot more clearer what's going on: https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/static/MXY2SL_Control_Panel_16_9_v02_45Z5UW.mp4 https://ferrari-cdn.thron.com/static/MXY2SL_Control_Panel_16... Seems to still depend on some state that they show on the display, makes it seems like you still need to hit "invisible" buttons in the iPad UI to start setting the temperature with the hardware "lever", kind of defeating the purpose. But maybe again it's just the website/images/videos being unclear.
  - darkwater 4mo ago
    I guess there is probably some easy and "no look" way to go to some default state where you control temperature etc. If you start fiddling with songs etc it's been distracting since forever anyway, physical knobs or not. Fine-tuning the frequency knob to get rid of the noise was always distracting.
  - Mashimo 4mo ago
    Yeah, climate on/off seems to be a touchscreen button. Hopefully you can activate it by changing the temperature. Or maybe double pressing the "climate" physical button.
- deleted 4mo ago
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jorvi 4mo ago

Are we looking at the same interior? It is ugly as sin. Looks like a mockup render that is going to need ten more iterations to look good.

Mashimo 4mo ago
If you want to discuss it, maybe explain it? I like tactile knobs and switches. I can see my self enjoying using them, similar to a fidget toy. Or an earbuds case that you can close with a satisfying SNAP. Look at the infotainment, you have the handle bar thing that you can feel and thus rest your hand vertically. But instead of just a row of flip switches, in the middle you have the depressed button and a wheel. All of this helps using it without taking your eyes of the road. I don't have a way with words, but there is also something about the instruments cluster. Looks cool I guess. Reminds me of 80s / 90s Mercedes maybe? Shows everything without being too much.
- amelius 4mo ago
  > I like tactile knobs and switches. You're not the only one. Users have been screaming for tactile buttons for about a decade or more now. Mercedes recently switched to tactile buttons and more expected to follow. But regarding this car, did you check where it says "CONTROL PANEL" in your link? It is still a flat screen ... Anyway, none of this looks revolutionary to me. Whether you think it is aesthetically pleasing or not (I do not).
  - Mashimo 4mo ago
    > "CONTROL PANEL" in your link? It is still a flat screen ... Yes, it has 9 or so physical buttons. Those are the ones I talked about in the post you are replaying to. As long as you can most needed tasks by buttons I'm fine also having a touchscreen. Just judging my the images it seems the climate On/Off is touchscreen only. Even though you can control temperature by buttons. Could be that you can enable / disable it via other means. (Double click climate or whatever) > none of this looks revolutionary to me. Yeah same. But then again I have no idea what was revolutionary in car dashboards. Maybe GPS navigation?

ryandrake 4mo ago

> The outside though :( The exterior of basically all cars from Hyundai up to (now) Ferarri is currently stuck at some kind of aerodynamic / fuel efficiency local maximum that dictates that they all look like the same boring bar of soap. Nobody seems willing to budge on this and climb down the hill even a bit. As problematic (quality-wise) as the Cybertruck is, at least they went full-send on the design. It might look ugly but at least they tried to not make it look like every other truck on the market.