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What do you mean? You just need to ban companies from doing 5 days work.

by ranyume 5mo ago

madrox 5mo ago
Amusingly, there is literally not even a 7 day work week ban for companies in the US. You can require employees work every day. Employers are just required to pay employees overtime under various conditions beyond 40 hours / five days a week, which is why you don't see it. And what's more, software engineers are exempt from these rules because of their pay grades. If you're a SWE making a salary the odds are your employer could require you work on Saturdays without running afowl of labor laws. This is all powered by norms.
- culi 5mo ago
  it's not powered by norms. In the US, if you want to employ someone more than 40 hours you have to give them extra overtime pay. It's called the Fair Labor Standards Act and it was passed in 1938
  - madrox 5mo ago
    Unless you are exempt. Guess what profession tends to be considered exempt? If you are a SWE, you don't get paid overtime for working that incident on the weekend or going over 40 hours in a week. The only reason you work five days a week is tradition.
    - dalyons 5mo ago
      Hence the rise of 996 bs
  - kelnos 5mo ago
    It's easy to get around that; just switch your employees to a salaried arrangement, and now you're exempt from shelling out for overtime pay. Give the employees enough work such that they have to work on weekends... and... done.
- zeroonetwothree 5mo ago
  "Yeah, hello, Peter. What's happening? Listen, um, I'm going to need you to go ahead and come in on Saturday. So, if you could be here around 9, that would be great. Mmhkay? Oh, oh, and I almost forgot. I'm also going to need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday too."
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dwg 5mo ago
Same logic applies internationally.
- madrox 5mo ago
  Pretty much everywhere outside the US has stronger employee protections on this (with a few obvious notable exceptions). France is a great place to be an employee.
lII1lIlI11ll 5mo ago
You would also need to ban them from employing people in other countries that allow 5 days work.

What do you mean? You just need to ban companies from doing 5 days work.

by ranyume 5mo ago

What do you mean? You just need to ban companies from doing 5 days work.

Amusingly, there is literally not even a 7 day work week ban for companies in the US. You can require employees work every day. Employers are just required to pay employees overtime under various conditions beyond 40 hours / five days a week, which is why you don't see it. And what's more, software engineers are exempt from these rules because of their pay grades. If you're a SWE making a salary the odds are your employer could require you work on Saturdays without running afowl of labor laws. This is all powered by norms.

culi 5mo ago
it's not powered by norms. In the US, if you want to employ someone more than 40 hours you have to give them extra overtime pay. It's called the Fair Labor Standards Act and it was passed in 1938
- madrox 5mo ago
  Unless you are exempt. Guess what profession tends to be considered exempt? If you are a SWE, you don't get paid overtime for working that incident on the weekend or going over 40 hours in a week. The only reason you work five days a week is tradition.
  - dalyons 5mo ago
    Hence the rise of 996 bs
- kelnos 5mo ago
  It's easy to get around that; just switch your employees to a salaried arrangement, and now you're exempt from shelling out for overtime pay. Give the employees enough work such that they have to work on weekends... and... done.
zeroonetwothree 5mo ago
"Yeah, hello, Peter. What's happening? Listen, um, I'm going to need you to go ahead and come in on Saturday. So, if you could be here around 9, that would be great. Mmhkay? Oh, oh, and I almost forgot. I'm also going to need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday too."

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dwg 5mo ago

Same logic applies internationally.

madrox 5mo ago
Pretty much everywhere outside the US has stronger employee protections on this (with a few obvious notable exceptions). France is a great place to be an employee.

lII1lIlI11ll 5mo ago

You would also need to ban them from employing people in other countries that allow 5 days work.