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How porous is the CIA's interview process that they couldn't validate the guy's military discharge status?
by vostrocity 4mo ago
How porous is the CIA's interview process that they couldn't validate the guy's military discharge status?
- EA-3167 4mo agoWhen it comes to stories involving intelligence agencies I generally assume that I’m not getting the whole or accurate story.
- pstuart 4mo agoYeah, the CIA is all about CYA.
- sudoshred 4mo agoMuch like most office jobs
- pstuart 4mo agoLike most people, unfortunately. But most people aren't entrusted with so much power and duty, and done so ostensibly for service to the people of this country.
- rbanffy 4mo agoNot really, but all about manufacturing a story that fits whatever version the country needs pushed. It’s covering the country’s ass.
- IncreasePosts 4mo agoHow porous is the approving manager/chain that someone can request 300kg of gold bars and no one knows why and they just approve it any way.
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- profsummergig 4mo agoImagine if government approvals were that easy for things the country actually needed, like safe nuclear energy and bullet trains.
- bawolff 4mo agoI imagine a big difference is at most jobs the worst that will happen is you get fired, at the CIA you go to jail for the rest of your life.
- ProAm 4mo agoThe CIA is a cash only business.
- defrost 4mo agoOh, please. They're on record as happy to barter guns and drugs also.
- lenkite 4mo agoThat is why this story feels fishy.
- PedroBatista 4mo agoThe type of people Intelligence agencies need and use to accomplish their goals are also the type of people who tend to do these things.
- dolphinscorpion 4mo agoExactly, honest people would fail at such missions. A few million lost here and there is the cost of doing business
- sudoshred 4mo agoimminent danger pay
- iririririr 4mo agoWhat a disingenuous way of thinking. Not falling for this is the basis of much religious text by the way. Splitting baby in the middle, etc. But on the other hand, being a useful fool that blindly does anything for profit, Do seem in line with the people working in tech for the last decade. Yes, the CIA is a corrupt today as "tech". And no that is not ok nor required, or it ever was like that.
- testaccount28 4mo agolol "the extralegal spy agency has become as corrupt as the search engines!"
- iririririr 4mo agospies (and specially counter spies*) have a place in a State. My point was about the populous eating up the inevitability of those entities being above the law by default. * but is is sad we destroyed the most important part we can't even catch lowly thieves like this
- simulator5g 4mo agoThey have funded each other since the beginning of the search engines, so I'm not sure the distinction is very important.
- yieldcrv 4mo agothe CIA told him to make that part of his identity and then burned him with it isn’t it obvious? not being charged for the forty million dollars in gold and foreign currency missing, no explanation on why they are even looking for something that was rightly paid out as expenses, no explanation on what kind of expenses those could be to begin with to incur this much, no explanation on why the government wasn't using US dollars to pay a government employee expenses. Its a complete red herring because some client state is paying off a debt, CIA just needs this guy burned
- mrandish 4mo ago> no explanation on what kind of expenses those could be I think it's pretty obvious the gold was to pay a bribe. The only thing I'm surprised about is the value. That's A LOT of money for a single pay-off or bribe. It seems more than what would conceivably be paid to an individual at once because spy agencies tend to prefer to pay-as-you-go with individuals. Each round of documents, actions or whatever gets a payment. So I suspect this was intended to either buy a one-time, career-ending action from someone very senior or, more likely, the ongoing cooperation of a company, gang or small nation-state. It's hard to guess but looking over major events in that time frame, Venezuela might be a good bet. The odd part is that the gold was in his house. Aside from the dumb trade craft of keeping it in the very first place anyone would look, why is the gold even in CONUS? And why gold? Bulk gold is one of the worse ways to transfer that much money. It's big, heavy, and easy to trace until melted down (which is hardly trivial for most people). But the thing I'm stuck on is the places you can walk into and get cash for even one kilo of gold, much less over 300 of them, is extremely limited - and half of them will be under some form of "Know Your Customer" reporting, especially in North America, and the other half might prefer to "Kill Your Customer" and keep the gold. Diamonds, bearer bonds, offshore numbered account, even good old Benjamins seem far better. I think the amount and medium both narrow down the sort of person or entity the intended recipient must be. One imagines the sort of folks who'd actually prefer to receive payment in that much gold bar all reside overseas where they might control a national bank or have their own precious metals smelting operation. That's why I'm struggling to picture the fake scenario this senior executive used to plausibly convince anyone at the CIA he personally needed to take possession of more gold than several people can comfortably carry and do so in the vicinity of rural Langley, VA. I mean, he can't carry it on any commercial flight and It's not like he's going to schlepp it himself in his family sedan to put it on a secret CIA cargo flight. The CIA has people for that. Also, someone that senior isn't generally doing any direct case officer work. They manage case officers who manage field assets. So many interesting questions we'll never get answers to.
- rurban 4mo agoThe CIA as an illegal and fascist organization tends to hire the illegals and fascists. Drug killers, torturers, and psychopaths.
- hypercube33 4mo agoThere's even a Tom Cruise movie about it called American Made.
- Tangurena2 4mo agoI prefer the one with Harrison Ford, where he buys an overpriced helicopter with a check.
- rurban 4mo agoI trust the independent books more. Such movies are mostly paid propaganda
- FuriouslyAdrift 4mo agoWhen I had to have a TS/SCI with a SAP for a specific mission in the military, they weren't going to wait for the investigation, poly, etc. so a general just waved his hand and signed a hand written note (to be formally typed up later... which never happened) and, ta-da, I had clearance. It's just like security in any system... sometimes it needs adjusted for expediency. The key is to be eventually consistent at the very least.
- peebee67 4mo agoIf he's truly a "senior" CIA official, he probably actually was a reservist for much of his career, and continued to claim leave for reserve duties after he was discharged. And payroll eventually did pick up on this, which sparked an HR investigation of his credentials, which turned out to be inflated, and only then did they start to look at what this guy was doing with all the money he was taking home. Payroll is probably the only entity in this story that was actually doing their damn job. I'm curious why he was discharged now.