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Meta alone spent 2 billion dollars lobbying for this worldwide, and it was a massive success, it's passing everywhere unanimously.

Aurornis 5mo ago
Meta has not spent $2 billion lobbying for this or on lobbying altogether. It’s amazing how that one AI slop project that made this claim got so many people to believe this number. Spreading this disproven AI slop around isn’t helping. It just makes opposition look like uninformed conspiracy theorists who can’t fact check anything.
- frm88 5mo ago
  Meta is lobbying to get age verification installed at the OS level so that they don't have to bear the cost themselves. I know nothing of the $2B but the fact that Meta influences the legislation can hardly be denied: During the meeting, Meta executives, including Antigone Davis, global head of safety, are understood to have argued that any age checks should be handled on a smartphone operating system rather than by the likes of Meta. https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/meta-urges-labour-burden-apple-142724331.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/meta-urges-labo...
thesmtsolver2 5mo ago
Citation for this claim? Searching lands on this page without any citations and seems AI generated slop: https://captaincompliance.com/education/meta-is-spending-2-billion-to-build-a-surveillance-system-it-just-doesnt-want-you-to-call-it-that/ https://captaincompliance.com/education/meta-is-spending-2-b...
- Aurornis 5mo ago
  There was an AI generated slop report posted to Reddit that went viral. It even got some news coverage before anyone stopped to read the files and discover that it was gibberish. I still get downvoted for pointing it out and trying to ground the conversation in facts. As you noticed the story continues to thrive on bad news sites and social media.
  - thesmtsolver2 5mo ago
    > I still get downvoted for pointing it out and trying to ground the conversation in facts. That seems right for current-day HN lol. I got downvoted for pointing out obvious inaccuracies in another comment.
- oceansky 5mo ago
  https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rshc1f/i_traced_2_billion_in_nonprofit_grants_and_45/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rshc1f/i_traced_2_b...
  - dmix 5mo ago
    If I'm reading that right this covers all of Meta's state lobbying spending which is $45M + $25M federally and it's not all directly related to this age gating stuff, but general shaping anti-child exploitation policy? > On every social media regulation bill in Colorado, Meta takes an "Amending" position, actively fighting changes. Across 117 lobbying records on 22 bills: > Bills regulating social media: Meta position is "Amending" (fighting) > The one bill putting the burden on OS providers: Meta position is "Monitoring" (watching) > Meta fights bills that regulate Meta. Meta watches bills that regulate everyone else. So their lobbyist choosing not to fight against the OS age gating is the big reveal.
  - thesmtsolver2 5mo ago
    The link doesn't show what you think it shows.
  - sph 5mo ago
    Yes, the source of these claims is AI slop from a new account with no history.
sometimelurker 5mo ago
give source
shantnutiwari 5mo ago
>>Meta alone spent 2 billion dollars lobbying fo Source: Some guy on Reddit, trust me bro

Aurornis 5mo ago

Meta has not spent $2 billion lobbying for this or on lobbying altogether. It’s amazing how that one AI slop project that made this claim got so many people to believe this number. Spreading this disproven AI slop around isn’t helping. It just makes opposition look like uninformed conspiracy theorists who can’t fact check anything.

frm88 5mo ago
Meta is lobbying to get age verification installed at the OS level so that they don't have to bear the cost themselves. I know nothing of the $2B but the fact that Meta influences the legislation can hardly be denied: During the meeting, Meta executives, including Antigone Davis, global head of safety, are understood to have argued that any age checks should be handled on a smartphone operating system rather than by the likes of Meta. https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/meta-urges-labour-burden-apple-142724331.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/meta-urges-labo...

thesmtsolver2 5mo ago

Citation for this claim? Searching lands on this page without any citations and seems AI generated slop: https://captaincompliance.com/education/meta-is-spending-2-billion-to-build-a-surveillance-system-it-just-doesnt-want-you-to-call-it-that/ https://captaincompliance.com/education/meta-is-spending-2-b...

Aurornis 5mo ago
There was an AI generated slop report posted to Reddit that went viral. It even got some news coverage before anyone stopped to read the files and discover that it was gibberish. I still get downvoted for pointing it out and trying to ground the conversation in facts. As you noticed the story continues to thrive on bad news sites and social media.
- thesmtsolver2 5mo ago
  > I still get downvoted for pointing it out and trying to ground the conversation in facts. That seems right for current-day HN lol. I got downvoted for pointing out obvious inaccuracies in another comment.
oceansky 5mo ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rshc1f/i_traced_2_billion_in_nonprofit_grants_and_45/ https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/1rshc1f/i_traced_2_b...
- dmix 5mo ago
  If I'm reading that right this covers all of Meta's state lobbying spending which is $45M + $25M federally and it's not all directly related to this age gating stuff, but general shaping anti-child exploitation policy? > On every social media regulation bill in Colorado, Meta takes an "Amending" position, actively fighting changes. Across 117 lobbying records on 22 bills: > Bills regulating social media: Meta position is "Amending" (fighting) > The one bill putting the burden on OS providers: Meta position is "Monitoring" (watching) > Meta fights bills that regulate Meta. Meta watches bills that regulate everyone else. So their lobbyist choosing not to fight against the OS age gating is the big reveal.
- thesmtsolver2 5mo ago
  The link doesn't show what you think it shows.
- sph 5mo ago
  Yes, the source of these claims is AI slop from a new account with no history.

sometimelurker 5mo ago

give source

shantnutiwari 5mo ago

>>Meta alone spent 2 billion dollars lobbying fo Source: Some guy on Reddit, trust me bro