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The small thing that annoys me is that I am 100% sure somebody at Apple has a directive: never allow Kagi search integration. I am truly baffled (and annoyed)

by seviu 5mo ago

The small thing that annoys me is that I am 100% sure somebody at Apple has a directive: never allow Kagi search integration. I am truly baffled (and annoyed) about this fact.

daft_pink 5mo ago
I know right. It’s simple. Google pays them over a billion dollars and Kagi doesn’t.
- BirAdam 5mo ago
  However, Apple does allow DDG, Ecosia, and Bing. They just don’t allow Brave or Kagi.
  - trollbridge 5mo ago
    Easily fixed by installing Brave Browser.
    - freehorse 5mo ago
      Or a bunch of other browsers. Nothing special about brave.
    - daft_pink 5mo ago
      Just not very practical on iOS or iPad
- alex1138 5mo ago
  I get annoyed at Whatsapp and see it as a case for antitrust but apparently Google is just as guilty of this
xp84 5mo ago
Using third-party browsers on iOS isn’t nearly as annoying as it was a few years ago. I had been driven to switch back to Safari a few years ago after trying to make a go of it. But last year I switched back to a third-party default browser and have been happy. Third-party keyboards, still not usable but browsers are basically ok.
- TylerE 5mo ago
  3rd party browsers don't actually exist. iOS Chrome is just V8 bolted onto Webkit/Safari. Chromium is not part of it.
  - freehorse 5mo ago
    The point was that in a third party browser you can usually set any search provider, not which rendering engine they use.
- a1o 5mo ago
  > Third-party keyboards, still not usable but browsers are basically ok. The one third-party keyboard that seems to work is the one from Google, if you want a better experience than Apple’s.
amelius 5mo ago
Then don't buy Apple! There's more to device quality than whether a monkey can operate it and looks shiny.
sobjornstad 5mo ago
On iOS, there is an app called xSearch that integrates into Safari and sneakily hacks around the limited search engine options by watching your browsing history for queries to the search engine you've selected in Safari, then immediately rewriting the URL and navigating to the search engine you actually want. Obviously this has security implications, but I don't ordinarily search for anything sketchy on my iPhone so I'm personally not too worried about it.
- sph 5mo ago
  No need for a third party app. Kagi itself has an extension to intercept queries sent to Google and redirecting them on their website.
account42 5mo ago
You could always choose to use software that respects the user's freedom.

by seviu 5mo ago

The small thing that annoys me is that I am 100% sure somebody at Apple has a directive: never allow Kagi search integration. I am truly baffled (and annoyed) about this fact.

daft_pink 5mo ago

I know right. It’s simple. Google pays them over a billion dollars and Kagi doesn’t.

BirAdam 5mo ago
However, Apple does allow DDG, Ecosia, and Bing. They just don’t allow Brave or Kagi.
- trollbridge 5mo ago
  Easily fixed by installing Brave Browser.
  - freehorse 5mo ago
    Or a bunch of other browsers. Nothing special about brave.
  - daft_pink 5mo ago
    Just not very practical on iOS or iPad
alex1138 5mo ago
I get annoyed at Whatsapp and see it as a case for antitrust but apparently Google is just as guilty of this

xp84 5mo ago

Using third-party browsers on iOS isn’t nearly as annoying as it was a few years ago. I had been driven to switch back to Safari a few years ago after trying to make a go of it. But last year I switched back to a third-party default browser and have been happy. Third-party keyboards, still not usable but browsers are basically ok.

TylerE 5mo ago
3rd party browsers don't actually exist. iOS Chrome is just V8 bolted onto Webkit/Safari. Chromium is not part of it.
- freehorse 5mo ago
  The point was that in a third party browser you can usually set any search provider, not which rendering engine they use.
a1o 5mo ago
> Third-party keyboards, still not usable but browsers are basically ok. The one third-party keyboard that seems to work is the one from Google, if you want a better experience than Apple’s.

amelius 5mo ago

Then don't buy Apple! There's more to device quality than whether a monkey can operate it and looks shiny.

sobjornstad 5mo ago

On iOS, there is an app called xSearch that integrates into Safari and sneakily hacks around the limited search engine options by watching your browsing history for queries to the search engine you've selected in Safari, then immediately rewriting the URL and navigating to the search engine you actually want. Obviously this has security implications, but I don't ordinarily search for anything sketchy on my iPhone so I'm personally not too worried about it.

sph 5mo ago
No need for a third party app. Kagi itself has an extension to intercept queries sent to Google and redirecting them on their website.

account42 5mo ago

You could always choose to use software that respects the user's freedom.