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The political polarization of health outcomes in the USA
- adampunk 5mo agoOh well.
- fridder 5mo agoJust reading the abstract makes me think of the phrase: Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
- janalsncm 5mo agoSeems like causality might be reversed here. People become more politically conservative the more jaded they become with the healthcare system.
- grahamburger 5mo agoMany people in the US become more liberal as they become more jaded by the (for-profit) healthcare system.
- forgetfreeman 5mo agoThrough what mechanism does dissatisfaction with our for-profit healthcare system lead to support for eg. expansionist foreign wars or aggressive policing policies?
- add-sub-mul-div 5mo agoFear of pronouns.
- pjc50 5mo agoIsn't it just that they're in the Republican misinformation ecosystem? This because extreme over COVID. A particular low point was Herman Cain's Twitter account doing COVID denial while, and after, the man died of COVID.
- zzgo 5mo agoThey posthumously named The Herman Cain Award after him. https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/ https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/
- fabian2k 5mo agoWhy would that make you more conservative? Republicans don't have any answers to fix the US healthcare system. It would be far more plausible that someone that experienced the failure of the health care system would vote for a populist position here, and for healthcare the more convincing populist position is certainly the left one.
- leereeves 5mo agoThe current healthcare system was mostly shaped by Democrats with the Affordable Care Act (sometimes called Obamacare) at a time when Democrats held a filibuster proof majority.
- zzgo 5mo agoThe ACA is grounded in a lot of political policy going back to the Nixon era, and draws from quite a bit of conservative ideas. The individual mandate itself, for example, was a Heritage Foundation proposal from the late 80s, and was ironically one of the main targets of Republican objection during and after the implementation of the ACA. If you review Nixon's CHIP proposal (https://www.nixonfoundation.org/2015/11/the-nixon-comprehensive-health-insurance-plan/ https://www.nixonfoundation.org/2015/11/the-nixon-comprehens...), you'll find a proposal that maps pretty closely onto the ACA marketplace that we now have available. "Mostly shaped by Democrats with major proposals cribbed from Republicans" would be a more accurate assessment.
- bsder 5mo ago
- ajross 5mo agoThat's misunderstanding the paper. The correlation here is with outcomes, not support. Republicans may very well be more "jaded" with the healthcare system. But that doesn't explain why they die early.
- PearlRiver 5mo agoHow do you become jaded with something you do not have access to? Has universal healthcare ever been tried in the US?
- robocat 5mo agoWould need to affect reproduction for Darwinian effects to matter. Encourage deathly extreme sports for kids/teens/20s/30s? Need more hysteric ball betting. Build up the belief of rewards in afterlife - vergings towards other religions? Win by playing a long game.
- Glyptodon 5mo agoI suspect this is probably more complicated. My family members who live in small towns and rural areas have been having larger health issues and more trouble getting care even if they want to for years if not decades compared to my relatives who live in major urban areas, and particularly those who live in more affluent areas. Like I'd go so far as to estimate that affluent areas metro adjacent are +7 years vs. non-affluent metro areas, which are also like +7 years vs. rural/small town areas or slum/poor metro areas. But I also think the kind of care and non-care my relatives in smaller/rural areas leads to exhaustion, loss of faith in the system, and interest in alternative options. But I also don't doubt that adding the modern conservative delusions and paranoia on top of it all only worsens everything.
- johnea 5mo agoIt's well documented that healthcare providers in rural US are diminishing, and yet, they continue to vote for right wing candidates. It is important to point out though, that the last opportunity to establish single-payer healthcare in the US was prevented by the democratic party. The famous Hillary quote: "Single payer is off the table" This is why the RNC has hated on the Clintons so much, and especially Hillary: they were muscling in on republican turf.
- tzs 5mo ago> It is important to point out though, that the last opportunity to establish single-payer healthcare in the US was prevented by the democratic party It is only (possibly) important to point that out if single-payer healthcare is necessary for an affordable, high quality, universal healthcare system. That is clearly not the case since there are several examples of first world countries with such systems that are not single-payer, such as Germany, France, Switzerland, and the Netherlands.
- Glyptodon 5mo agoIn all fairness they also have very little in the way of very low population density areas compared to the US. For example, Montana is bigger than Germany and has like 7 people per square mile overall.
- black_13 5mo ago[dead]
- Arodex 5mo agoRepublicans like to throw around "FAFO" to justify their cruelty. Well, Republicans, FAFO.
- kj4211cash 5mo agoThe Southern Strategy destroyed the GOP as we knew it. It is now the party of dumb. Say that and you get accused of being elitist, but it's the truth. You can win elections as the party of dumb. But, man, it's tough being dumb in the USA today. There's so much misinformation and marketing of harmful products.
- Yizahi 5mo agoOver here, far far away from USA, we have a joke story about a certain type of person, who finds a jinni lamp. Jinn tells that person that he can fulfill any single wish of his, but the caveat is that person's neighbor will get twice as much of the same thing. And the person responds with "gouge one of my eyes". And that's basically a tale of healthcare in some countries. "I will suffer some, but at least "those" people will suffer more!".