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I'm proud to be in the NEVER WATCHED THIS CRAPOLA category, evidently not important enough to be counted.

skizm 14y ago
You can't criticize it if you haven't seen it IMO. Also it seems odd to be proud to be ignorant of something (regardless of your personal music preferences).
- camus 14y ago
  like you cant tell cocaine is bad unless you tried it, right ?
  - Surio 14y ago
    Apples and pears, I'm afraid.
  - camus 14y ago
    yet both are fruits.
    - Surio 14y ago
      And yet they have different colours, different tastes, different blah blahs.... Look, its Saturday today, we both have a lot of time, and this can go on and on, but I think we both know what I wanted to convey :-)
  - lutze 14y ago
    Huh? I think the defining problem with cocaine is that it is in fact, awesome. So fucking awesome that you'll ruin your life to get it.
    - jusben1369 14y ago
      Seems like the end point in your case though then is "it's bad" Honestly Camus putting a label like "bad" or "good" on a complicated thing like drug usage doesn't seem wise does it?
Surio 14y ago
What the other person said, how can you be so sure it is bad w/o even having seen it in the first place? :-P FWIW, it is an excellent satire on pop-culture in general, hip-hop videos, OTT dance moves in most music videos, etc. And the tune itself is quite catchy and has excellent recall value even without following the language... In short, I cannot emphasise enough on how wonderfully it works as a satire to all things that you might consider "crapola" (this view is based on how quickly you dismissed the video as crapola in the first place), so I suggest you fire up the video and only then dismiss it. You're welcome to diss it though, just watch it first, make an informed opinion, and then you're welcome to diss it all you want ;-)
- camus 14y ago
  i dont think it is a satire of anything. it's just pre-pooped music like most of today's mainstream music.
  - Surio 14y ago
    YMMV ;-) But, yes, your point can be equally valid too. When it comes to visual arts, the whole thing is soooo open to interpretation.
  - joezydeco 14y ago
    Hear that clicking sound? It's your generation gap getting a little wider. Happens to everyone.
    - jusben1369 14y ago
      Ha ha. While it might be a generational thing those types of derogatory comments are also very frequent from members of the current generation (through every generation)
  - lemma 14y ago
    You don't even need to speak Korean to understand it's satire. The very opening visual is something you could analyze for a high school English essay. Not saying it's terribly deep, but it is satire.
rscale 14y ago
Gangnam Style is a poignant example of a world-wide entertainment trend that wasn't started in America. Most of the world doesn't even know what the lyrics mean, but that didn't keep it from sweeping the globe. It did so without advertising or great expense, using Internet platforms like Youtube to get reach. I've seen Gangnam Style covered in places like the New Yorker, the Economist, and the Wall Street Journal. These are places that don't generally spend time discussing pop music, but that also felt Gangnam was worth consideration. Musical tastes vary, and nothing says you have to like it. But PSY's hit seems to be indicative of a global increase in cosmopolitanism, and that's a trend that affects many entrepreneurs and investors.
- Surio 14y ago
  +1 for "Gangnam Style is a poignant example of a world-wide entertainment trend that wasn't started in America". You said it. I wanted to say that too, but didn't feel it was necessary within the discussion context taking place (where I was first replying). Since you've mentioned it, here's my view. There's a certain "uninhibitedness" to the video that's very recognisably asiatic (as in there is no 'Made in USA' cultural feel and reference to it) and that also that shouts out "I am not a packaged deal, I was spontaneously made". I think that freshness is what's keeping the momentum going.
- agumonkey 14y ago
  Note aside, the singer seems to be a wise, generous and simple person with a sense of distance. I was greatly surprised and pleased to see him in interviews. Doubly refreshing.
  - Surio 14y ago
    Very nice to hear that one. Most stories about people involved in media, music and entertainment seem to highlight that they don't have any those obviously redeeming qualities
    - agumonkey 14y ago
      Many of celebrities are product of the system (teen idols, etc), iirc PSY was an struggling odd pop singer with his own take on things I guess, which makes the whole phenomenon even funnier.
eshvk 14y ago
Clearly, you are motivated enough to read (allegedly) the entire article and open the link and comment here about how you have never watched it. Yet, you still are ready to make an assumption of its alleged crappiness without having watched it or experienced it. I am puzzled: What is it exactly that you want? a recognition of the obscure nature of your tastes? Or..?
rayiner 14y ago
Do you want a cookie for that achievement, hon?
noonespecial 14y ago
This kind of comment feels like it's becoming the new "I don't even own a tv". Just like before, the only people who didn't have tvs that I took seriously were the ones who would never feel the need to go out of their way to tell you about it.

skizm 14y ago

You can't criticize it if you haven't seen it IMO. Also it seems odd to be proud to be ignorant of something (regardless of your personal music preferences).

camus 14y ago
like you cant tell cocaine is bad unless you tried it, right ?
- Surio 14y ago
  Apples and pears, I'm afraid.
- camus 14y ago
  yet both are fruits.
  - Surio 14y ago
    And yet they have different colours, different tastes, different blah blahs.... Look, its Saturday today, we both have a lot of time, and this can go on and on, but I think we both know what I wanted to convey :-)
- lutze 14y ago
  Huh? I think the defining problem with cocaine is that it is in fact, awesome. So fucking awesome that you'll ruin your life to get it.
  - jusben1369 14y ago
    Seems like the end point in your case though then is "it's bad" Honestly Camus putting a label like "bad" or "good" on a complicated thing like drug usage doesn't seem wise does it?

Surio 14y ago

What the other person said, how can you be so sure it is bad w/o even having seen it in the first place? :-P FWIW, it is an excellent satire on pop-culture in general, hip-hop videos, OTT dance moves in most music videos, etc. And the tune itself is quite catchy and has excellent recall value even without following the language... In short, I cannot emphasise enough on how wonderfully it works as a satire to all things that you might consider "crapola" (this view is based on how quickly you dismissed the video as crapola in the first place), so I suggest you fire up the video and only then dismiss it. You're welcome to diss it though, just watch it first, make an informed opinion, and then you're welcome to diss it all you want ;-)

camus 14y ago
i dont think it is a satire of anything. it's just pre-pooped music like most of today's mainstream music.
- Surio 14y ago
  YMMV ;-) But, yes, your point can be equally valid too. When it comes to visual arts, the whole thing is soooo open to interpretation.
- joezydeco 14y ago
  Hear that clicking sound? It's your generation gap getting a little wider. Happens to everyone.
  - jusben1369 14y ago
    Ha ha. While it might be a generational thing those types of derogatory comments are also very frequent from members of the current generation (through every generation)
- lemma 14y ago
  You don't even need to speak Korean to understand it's satire. The very opening visual is something you could analyze for a high school English essay. Not saying it's terribly deep, but it is satire.

rscale 14y ago

Gangnam Style is a poignant example of a world-wide entertainment trend that wasn't started in America. Most of the world doesn't even know what the lyrics mean, but that didn't keep it from sweeping the globe. It did so without advertising or great expense, using Internet platforms like Youtube to get reach. I've seen Gangnam Style covered in places like the New Yorker, the Economist, and the Wall Street Journal. These are places that don't generally spend time discussing pop music, but that also felt Gangnam was worth consideration. Musical tastes vary, and nothing says you have to like it. But PSY's hit seems to be indicative of a global increase in cosmopolitanism, and that's a trend that affects many entrepreneurs and investors.

Surio 14y ago
+1 for "Gangnam Style is a poignant example of a world-wide entertainment trend that wasn't started in America". You said it. I wanted to say that too, but didn't feel it was necessary within the discussion context taking place (where I was first replying). Since you've mentioned it, here's my view. There's a certain "uninhibitedness" to the video that's very recognisably asiatic (as in there is no 'Made in USA' cultural feel and reference to it) and that also that shouts out "I am not a packaged deal, I was spontaneously made". I think that freshness is what's keeping the momentum going.
agumonkey 14y ago
Note aside, the singer seems to be a wise, generous and simple person with a sense of distance. I was greatly surprised and pleased to see him in interviews. Doubly refreshing.
- Surio 14y ago
  Very nice to hear that one. Most stories about people involved in media, music and entertainment seem to highlight that they don't have any those obviously redeeming qualities
  - agumonkey 14y ago
    Many of celebrities are product of the system (teen idols, etc), iirc PSY was an struggling odd pop singer with his own take on things I guess, which makes the whole phenomenon even funnier.

eshvk 14y ago

Clearly, you are motivated enough to read (allegedly) the entire article and open the link and comment here about how you have never watched it. Yet, you still are ready to make an assumption of its alleged crappiness without having watched it or experienced it. I am puzzled: What is it exactly that you want? a recognition of the obscure nature of your tastes? Or..?

rayiner 14y ago

Do you want a cookie for that achievement, hon?

noonespecial 14y ago

This kind of comment feels like it's becoming the new "I don't even own a tv". Just like before, the only people who didn't have tvs that I took seriously were the ones who would never feel the need to go out of their way to tell you about it.