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> Your joke I'm not amused. Are you amused? > They created a new society on the land. I see my message didn't quite get through. You're almost there however
by purerandomness 5mo ago
> Your joke
I'm not amused. Are you amused?
> They created a new society on the land.
I see my message didn't quite get through.
You're almost there however. Think one step further: What stops the next "immigrants" from renaming your cute "society" that you currently have there, and declare a proper, civilized society, with a proper culture for once?
- rayiner 5mo agoNothing! If a superior civilization comes to America and wipes it out and builds a new society in its place, then those people will also be “settlers” not “immigrants.”
- mktk1001 5mo agoDo you mean the kind of superior civilization that progressed from chattel slavery to being run by a cabal of pedophiles?
- rayiner 5mo agoThe kind that invented the internet and the airplane and the microchip and put a man on the moon.
- callmeal 4mo ago> The kind that invented the internet Seriously did not expect a MiniTel reference here. Vive Le France‽ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minitel
- rayiner 4mo agoARPAnet had already been out a decade by then. TCP/IP was standardized the same year MiniTel came out.
- Dylan16807 5mo agoI'm worried about your use of "superior" here but yeah the rest of that is right.
- remarkEon 4mo agoWhy? It is demonstrably superior. If it wasn’t we wouldn’t be debating whether it’s immoral to not let everyone else on the planet in.
- fpoling 4mo agoThe only real advantage of European settlers was smallpox immunity. If not for that the history could move in a very different direction.
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- remarkEon 4mo agoThis entire thread is filled with people willfully lying about history like you are right now. It’s incredible to see. I can’t tell if it’s because this is a simple is vs ought distinction and you are having a hard to reconciling your ought with the is.
- Dylan16807 4mo agoEh. I wouldn't say only but it was the biggest advantage. The Europeans brought better tech and bad racism along with the terrible diseases. If they had established trade without disasters we might have seen the natives be very successful too.
- fpoling 4mo agoIn his last book “The Dawn of Everything” David Graeber very convincingly argued that the idea of modern democracy came from Indian tribes in Northern America. And it is also interesting how easily European countries went back to authoritarian or even totalitarian states given the opportunity. Yet US is more resilient and one explanation is subtle influence of Indian culture that still affects US. As for technological advantage of Europe then 3000 years ago Ancient Egypt was way more advanced than Europe. 1000 years ago Arabic countries were more advance and 500 years ago China was more advanced. And Europe was lucky that China was focused on internal problems and not territorial expansion.
- VerifiedReports 5mo agoAh, that explains the Israeli "settlers" in Gaza.
- conception 4mo agoI think it’s telling that you have the opinion that a superior civilization would wipe out another at all.
- drnick1 4mo ago> Think one step further: What stops the next "immigrants" from renaming your cute "society" that you currently have there, and declare a proper, civilized society, with a proper culture for once? Nothing, but it is our right, as Trump does, to call that an invasion and forcibly reject it.