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I really don’t understand how so many people can support this admin. It’s not that I ideologically disagree with them, but they are so corrupt that they appear

I really don’t understand how so many people can support this admin. It’s not that I ideologically disagree with them, but they are so corrupt that they appear incompetent. They actually aren’t incompetent, they just don’t care about what is important to almost everyone else. If you, for example, don’t care about public safety or accountability it turns out you can make a lot of money.

atty 5mo ago
The federal government and the executive branch has a well specified set of responsibilities to the people of this country, and they are massively failing at just about every metric. So yes, they are truly incompetent.
- jmcgough 5mo ago
  They aren't interested in those responsibilities, just enriching themselves and attacking their enemies.
smallmancontrov 5mo ago
Information bubbles are wicked. I'm visiting family over the long weekend and they are all convinced that Trump is a selfless holy crusader against fraud who is finding so much Democrat fraud that he deserves a little side action :|
- ramraj07 5mo ago
  Thats not a bubble though, thats just Stockholm syndrome or genuine acceptance of this behavior as being acceptable or even perfect.
- michaelmrose 5mo ago
  That's not just an information bubble it's stupidity sometimes but not always with a side order of racism. The entire notion of somehow deserving to be corrupt as well is an indication of not just being unethical but literally not understanding what ethics looks like. We have to come to terms with the idea that half of America is neither intelligent nor good people.
doctoboggan 5mo ago
There is a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at about half the country. They use all channels available to them, as well as much of the machinery that surveillance capitalism has built to paint a picture that is very different from reality. Many people’s access to virtually all their information is mediated through this propaganda machine. It’s frankly incredible that there are even any stories of people deep within it eventually breaking out seeing as how well functioning it all is. Is this a conspiracy theory? Sort of I guess, but it seems pretty obvious to me. And no, I don’t think “my side” would be immune to a similar machine speaking the language we like to hear, but I just think that hasn’t happened (yet), and I hope I can be one of those to break out of it does happen.
- alecthomas 5mo ago
  > There is a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at about half the country. There are propaganda machines directed at everyone. > And no, I don’t think “my side” would be immune to a similar machine speaking the language we like to hear, but I just think that hasn’t happened (yet) It seems incredibly naive to believe that propaganda in this age isn't utilised by all "sides". My base assumption for any information, particularly from mainstream media, is that it's biased one way or the other.
  - doctoboggan 5mo ago
    I didn't say "my side" doesn't utilize propaganda, I said there isn't a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at my side.
    - chii 5mo ago
      > ...aimed at my side. that's how you know it's successful.
    - deleted 5mo ago
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- aprilthird2021 5mo ago
DesaiAshu 5mo ago
A lot of us are coming to terms with "tier-1" venture firms like a16z tolerating corruption and ethics violations to support financial deregulation (crypto, prediction markets) and AI deregulation Polymarket is even running ragebait ads[1] about Trump's corruption, while his son (profiting from the corruption) sits on the board The word you are looking for is "greed", and it is ripping apart the moral fabric of this country [1] https://www.instagram.com/p/DYmu4RJnFrF/?img_index=11 https://www.instagram.com/p/DYmu4RJnFrF/?img_index=11
- Degenroll 5mo ago
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- KetoManx64 5mo ago
  All regulation does is centralize the power to a few big players, which are corrupted themselves, and then they get little slaps on the wrist whenever they're caught by being fined 0.01% of their annual profits and then bailed out when they royally fuck up.
michaelmrose 5mo ago
How can you idealogically agree with them especially when the only idealogy they have is greed and bigotry.
- kenjackson 5mo ago
  I don’t agree with them. I should’ve been more clear. I was trying to say - putting ideology aside…
pjmlp 5mo ago
Like in every dictorship, they succeed because enough people rather profit from administration, rather than fighting with their moral and join the resistance movements, with all implications to their personal life.
- mistrial9 5mo ago
  similar to the Google-Facebook surveillance Capitalism that funded so many D-pols? .. before this devolves into simple polarity jab posts.. taxation-based Big Gov seems very eager to embrace and extend constant tracking of location via devices.. social attribution profiles are maybe less so, maybe? hard to see the positives in the new social dynamics, from either base in the US, from this chair
  - pjmlp 5mo ago
    History has proven how capitalism is eager to work with such kind of governments. Shareholders tend to not have morals as long as money keeps pumping into their bank accounts. They are responsible for much of the sad state of affairs across the planet, now they even offer gold statuses back home, for little favours.
    - KetoManx64 5mo ago
      This is the very definition of crony capitalism. Capitalism without any government intervention/ force hasn't been a thing in a very long time.

atty 5mo ago

The federal government and the executive branch has a well specified set of responsibilities to the people of this country, and they are massively failing at just about every metric. So yes, they are truly incompetent.

jmcgough 5mo ago
They aren't interested in those responsibilities, just enriching themselves and attacking their enemies.

smallmancontrov 5mo ago

Information bubbles are wicked. I'm visiting family over the long weekend and they are all convinced that Trump is a selfless holy crusader against fraud who is finding so much Democrat fraud that he deserves a little side action :|

ramraj07 5mo ago
Thats not a bubble though, thats just Stockholm syndrome or genuine acceptance of this behavior as being acceptable or even perfect.
michaelmrose 5mo ago
That's not just an information bubble it's stupidity sometimes but not always with a side order of racism. The entire notion of somehow deserving to be corrupt as well is an indication of not just being unethical but literally not understanding what ethics looks like. We have to come to terms with the idea that half of America is neither intelligent nor good people.

doctoboggan 5mo ago

There is a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at about half the country. They use all channels available to them, as well as much of the machinery that surveillance capitalism has built to paint a picture that is very different from reality. Many people’s access to virtually all their information is mediated through this propaganda machine. It’s frankly incredible that there are even any stories of people deep within it eventually breaking out seeing as how well functioning it all is. Is this a conspiracy theory? Sort of I guess, but it seems pretty obvious to me. And no, I don’t think “my side” would be immune to a similar machine speaking the language we like to hear, but I just think that hasn’t happened (yet), and I hope I can be one of those to break out of it does happen.

alecthomas 5mo ago
> There is a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at about half the country. There are propaganda machines directed at everyone. > And no, I don’t think “my side” would be immune to a similar machine speaking the language we like to hear, but I just think that hasn’t happened (yet) It seems incredibly naive to believe that propaganda in this age isn't utilised by all "sides". My base assumption for any information, particularly from mainstream media, is that it's biased one way or the other.
- doctoboggan 5mo ago
  I didn't say "my side" doesn't utilize propaganda, I said there isn't a vast, hugely funded, and incredibly adept propaganda machine aimed at my side.
  - chii 5mo ago
    > ...aimed at my side. that's how you know it's successful.
  - deleted 5mo ago
    [deleted]
aprilthird2021 5mo ago

DesaiAshu 5mo ago

A lot of us are coming to terms with "tier-1" venture firms like a16z tolerating corruption and ethics violations to support financial deregulation (crypto, prediction markets) and AI deregulation Polymarket is even running ragebait ads[1] about Trump's corruption, while his son (profiting from the corruption) sits on the board The word you are looking for is "greed", and it is ripping apart the moral fabric of this country [1] https://www.instagram.com/p/DYmu4RJnFrF/?img_index=11 https://www.instagram.com/p/DYmu4RJnFrF/?img_index=11

Degenroll 5mo ago
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KetoManx64 5mo ago
All regulation does is centralize the power to a few big players, which are corrupted themselves, and then they get little slaps on the wrist whenever they're caught by being fined 0.01% of their annual profits and then bailed out when they royally fuck up.

michaelmrose 5mo ago

How can you idealogically agree with them especially when the only idealogy they have is greed and bigotry.

kenjackson 5mo ago
I don’t agree with them. I should’ve been more clear. I was trying to say - putting ideology aside…

pjmlp 5mo ago

Like in every dictorship, they succeed because enough people rather profit from administration, rather than fighting with their moral and join the resistance movements, with all implications to their personal life.

mistrial9 5mo ago
similar to the Google-Facebook surveillance Capitalism that funded so many D-pols? .. before this devolves into simple polarity jab posts.. taxation-based Big Gov seems very eager to embrace and extend constant tracking of location via devices.. social attribution profiles are maybe less so, maybe? hard to see the positives in the new social dynamics, from either base in the US, from this chair
- pjmlp 5mo ago
  History has proven how capitalism is eager to work with such kind of governments. Shareholders tend to not have morals as long as money keeps pumping into their bank accounts. They are responsible for much of the sad state of affairs across the planet, now they even offer gold statuses back home, for little favours.
  - KetoManx64 5mo ago
    This is the very definition of crony capitalism. Capitalism without any government intervention/ force hasn't been a thing in a very long time.