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My country is not in the list (Mexico, not that we need to... Americans hate us), but I just cannot comprehend why people would go through all the pain for the
by xtracto 5mo ago
My country is not in the list (Mexico, not that we need to... Americans hate us), but I just cannot comprehend why people would go through all the pain for the immigration process in the US.
Actually, it kind of make sense why only the most desperate try to get into the US , people who have something to lose are naturally repelled by the bureaucracy.
- galleywest200 5mo agoThe average American, at least in my state (Washington), does not hate Mexicans. The people running the federal government seem to, however.
- skeeter2020 5mo agoWe love to paint the US in broad brushstrokes of color, but it more of a muddy brown across the entire country. Washington State doesn't have huge expat communities of Mexicans, but what about if I'm Chinese going to school in Spokane? Or Somali in St Paul, MN? or Pakistani in Chicago? Some "average Americans" seem to hate these people in every locale. EDIT: Wash. is actually a top 8 destination in the US for Mexican immigrants, with an estimated population of 250-300K people, so not huge but definitely sizeable!
- FireBeyond 5mo agoI dunno. The southern parts of SW WA can be pretty racist (Lewis County and south). Rural, much more red, but without the extensive farming more pervasive on the east side.
- 0xDEAFBEAD 5mo ago>Americans hate us I don't mean to minimize any negative experiences you've had. But as a lifelong American, I've never heard anyone make a negative comment about Mexicans. Even in online spaces like X where there is a lot of racism, it's usually not directed at Mexicans. If you look at Trump's famous comment about Mexicans in his speech from 2015, he actually points to Mexicans in the audience and refers to them as Mexico's best people. The media cut that part out, of course. (I'm not a Trump supporter.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apjNfkysjbM#t=3m25s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apjNfkysjbM#t=3m25s
- valleyer 5mo agoHere is the actual quote you are defending: TRUMP: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best -- they're not sending you [points at unidentified people off-camera] -- they're not sending you -- they're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs; they're bringing crime; they're rapists and some, I assume, are good people." There is no apparent indication in that video that the people he's pointing at are Mexican.
- rcxdude 5mo agoAmong other issues, countries are not generally 'sending people' to immigrate to other countries. Most countries are in general keen to avoid emigration.
- 0xDEAFBEAD 5mo ago>There is no apparent indication in that video that the people he's pointing at are Mexican. But it seems like the most natural interpretation. The most obvious, good-faith interpretation of this quote is that Mexico has a mix of good and bad people, like every country, and the ones immigrating illegally tend to be bad. The fact that the media didn't even consider this common-sense interpretation contributed a lot to Trump's popularity.
- valleyer 4mo agoCool. Here's something he said today: TRUMP: "They're all crooks. The Somalians are -- what they've done to Minnesota -- the Somalians. They're crooked as hell. Ilhan Omar. Crooked as hell. They're all crooks. And we got 'em." Really earning that good faith!
- dopple 5mo ago> But as a lifelong American, I've never heard anyone make a negative comment about Mexicans. What an absurd statement on its face that comes from a place of extreme privilege. I am a brown-skinned man in America and I lost count of all of the times people that look like me have been denigrated and lambasted in this country.
- exe34 5mo agoYeah, I'm brown. I'm not even going to visit the US while the turd reich is in power. I had always wanted to visit the Smithsonian.