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Mini brexit? A province seceding from Canada is way bigger than the UK leaving the EU.

JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
> A province seceding from Canada is way bigger than the UK leaving the EU Genuinely debatable. The total economic destruction of Brexit has been far higher than anything Alberta would suffer. And geopolitically, Alberta wouldn’t take itself off the table the way the English have basically rendered the UK irrelevant.
- GardenLetter27 5mo ago
  What? The UK is doing better economically than Germany right now. And better than anywhere in Europe for Tech with Deepmind and Ineffable Intelligence there. It still shares many of the same mistakes as Europe though - e.g. now having to buy Russian oil and gas again instead of using the North Sea oil, not expanding nuclear power, rampant welfare and council housing corruption, etc.
  - ben_w 5mo ago
    > What? The UK is doing better economically than Germany right now. By *near-instantaneous* (this year or this quarter) growth perhaps, but Brexit was a while ago and the 10-year growth was about 36.8% for Germany and about 25.1% for the UK: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=germany+gdp+2025%2Fgermany+gdp+2015%2C+uk+gdp+2025%2Fuk+gdp+2015 https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=germany+gdp+2025%2Fgerm... (That said, how each nation handled the pandemic is a massive confounding variable). Germany is currently ahead by 1.2 trillion per year for nominal GDP, 1.7 trillion by PPP GDP, and also ahead on both nominal per capita and PPP per capita. I agree there are some shared weaknesses, but oil and gas are now short-term thinking, and energy policy wasn't helped by (nor, fortunately, hurt by) Brexit. AI, much as I like using it, I'm not at all clear who is going to get left holding the bag, in each of the various scenarios from "it's a bubble" to "and now we're post-scarcity" and everything between.
Spooky23 5mo ago
Mini Brexit in the sense that a foreign entity is working to destabilize another. Russia and its proxies ran an active measures campaign in the UK. If the US government isn’t doing something similar, the toxic soup of the maga-sphere definitely is.

> A province seceding from Canada is way bigger than the UK leaving the EU Genuinely debatable. The total economic destruction of Brexit has been far higher than anything Alberta would suffer. And geopolitically, Alberta wouldn’t take itself off the table the way the English have basically rendered the UK irrelevant.

GardenLetter27 5mo ago
What? The UK is doing better economically than Germany right now. And better than anywhere in Europe for Tech with Deepmind and Ineffable Intelligence there. It still shares many of the same mistakes as Europe though - e.g. now having to buy Russian oil and gas again instead of using the North Sea oil, not expanding nuclear power, rampant welfare and council housing corruption, etc.
- ben_w 5mo ago
  > What? The UK is doing better economically than Germany right now. By *near-instantaneous* (this year or this quarter) growth perhaps, but Brexit was a while ago and the 10-year growth was about 36.8% for Germany and about 25.1% for the UK: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=germany+gdp+2025%2Fgermany+gdp+2015%2C+uk+gdp+2025%2Fuk+gdp+2015 https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=germany+gdp+2025%2Fgerm... (That said, how each nation handled the pandemic is a massive confounding variable). Germany is currently ahead by 1.2 trillion per year for nominal GDP, 1.7 trillion by PPP GDP, and also ahead on both nominal per capita and PPP per capita. I agree there are some shared weaknesses, but oil and gas are now short-term thinking, and energy policy wasn't helped by (nor, fortunately, hurt by) Brexit. AI, much as I like using it, I'm not at all clear who is going to get left holding the bag, in each of the various scenarios from "it's a bubble" to "and now we're post-scarcity" and everything between.

Spooky23 5mo ago

Mini Brexit in the sense that a foreign entity is working to destabilize another. Russia and its proxies ran an active measures campaign in the UK. If the US government isn’t doing something similar, the toxic soup of the maga-sphere definitely is.