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>I don't believe there will ever be any artificial intelligence, ... Sounds like you're talking about AGI, not AI. AI is here today.

by gruez 5mo ago

sjsdaiuasgdia 5mo ago
A thing that people have chosen to call AI is here today.
- gruez 5mo ago
  That just continues a tradition of moving the goalposts for "AI" to just beyond what's currently possible.
  - sjsdaiuasgdia 5mo ago
    If you want to lean into the lie, you do you. I will not.
  - HarHarVeryFunny 5mo ago
    Kind of, but I wouldn't exactly put it like that since AI has never meant anything more than automated intelligence/decision making of some sort. The bar isn't moving, just this almost meaningless label is just forever getting slapped on the latest shiny new thing. You could legitimately call a thermostat "AI". Expert systems were previously called AI. Today it's Large Language Models. Tomorrow it'll be something else.
  - amanaplanacanal 5mo ago
    I think the issue is that technologists use the term AI to mean one thing, which is something we've had since the 60s with lisp, forth, and prolog. And the average person uses AI to mean something more like Data from Star Trek, which we don't have and may or may not have this century. We're all talking past each other.
  - nutjob2 5mo ago
    There is no rigorous definition of intelligence, let alone artificial intelligence. What you're referring to is people simply not knowing what they're talking about. More to the point, there has always been a cottage industry in predicting an amazing future, just around the corner. 'AGI' is just the latest incarnation.
startpage_com 5mo ago
"AI" is a marketing buzzword. Real AI doesn't exist.
HarHarVeryFunny 5mo ago
AI was here in the 1970's too for that matter, in the form of expert systems. "AI" is the label that perennially gets applied to whatever current technology does something that was previously considered similar to human intelligence, then later on gets removed and applied to something new. You'll know were making progress towards AGI when LLMs start being called LLMs again, and something new starts being called AI.
- anthk 5mo ago
  As a die hard Schemer -and Prolog newbie-, I agree.

>I don't believe there will ever be any artificial intelligence, ... Sounds like you're talking about AGI, not AI. AI is here today.

by gruez 5mo ago

>I don't believe there will ever be any artificial intelligence, ... Sounds like you're talking about AGI, not AI. AI is here today.

sjsdaiuasgdia 5mo ago

A thing that people have chosen to call AI is here today.

gruez 5mo ago
That just continues a tradition of moving the goalposts for "AI" to just beyond what's currently possible.
- sjsdaiuasgdia 5mo ago
  If you want to lean into the lie, you do you. I will not.
- HarHarVeryFunny 5mo ago
  Kind of, but I wouldn't exactly put it like that since AI has never meant anything more than automated intelligence/decision making of some sort. The bar isn't moving, just this almost meaningless label is just forever getting slapped on the latest shiny new thing. You could legitimately call a thermostat "AI". Expert systems were previously called AI. Today it's Large Language Models. Tomorrow it'll be something else.
- amanaplanacanal 5mo ago
  I think the issue is that technologists use the term AI to mean one thing, which is something we've had since the 60s with lisp, forth, and prolog. And the average person uses AI to mean something more like Data from Star Trek, which we don't have and may or may not have this century. We're all talking past each other.
- nutjob2 5mo ago
  There is no rigorous definition of intelligence, let alone artificial intelligence. What you're referring to is people simply not knowing what they're talking about. More to the point, there has always been a cottage industry in predicting an amazing future, just around the corner. 'AGI' is just the latest incarnation.

startpage_com 5mo ago

"AI" is a marketing buzzword. Real AI doesn't exist.

HarHarVeryFunny 5mo ago

AI was here in the 1970's too for that matter, in the form of expert systems. "AI" is the label that perennially gets applied to whatever current technology does something that was previously considered similar to human intelligence, then later on gets removed and applied to something new. You'll know were making progress towards AGI when LLMs start being called LLMs again, and something new starts being called AI.

anthk 5mo ago
As a die hard Schemer -and Prolog newbie-, I agree.