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You should checkout the Gemini Protocol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol)

by etoxin 5mo ago

GalaxyNova 5mo ago
And I definitely suggest writing a server or client for it! It is a really fun weekend project.
zzo38computer 5mo ago
There are also the other "small web" protocols (and some other stuff). Either way, it is still the same internet and not a new one, and still uses TCP/IP and DNS (although not HTTP/HTML). (That does not mean that it is not worth anything, though.)
hntiz 5mo ago
This was my first thought when reading the title. I've spent the last month using chawan browser, which has a Gemini layer. And it's generally just a lot of fun to mix old web 1.0 layers with a new one.
jmclnx 5mo ago
Yes and it is cell phone friendly. I moved my site to gemini a couple of years ago. Maintenance is trivial compared to the WEB. There is also gopher and USENET, but on cells it can be hard. But the largest issue is the users attraction to "bright and shiny". I think no matter what comes I fear it will end up on the same path as now. Gemini has the ability to avoid enshitification, but it is still not attracting users like www. Anyway alternatives exist but they need some TLC and a method to keep out commercial entities.
- zzo38computer 5mo ago
  Gopher and Gemini can both work on many kind of devices; having a monochrome display, or the differences in input (e.g. having numbered lines works OK, especially since both require links to be on a line by itself, unlike HTML), etc, without the author of the document needing to worry about such things like that. In both cases text entry might sometimes be needed so is not ideal but still it is possible. What is "TLC" meaning here? Furthermore, for the purpose of keeping out commercial entities, it would be necessary to have the details of what is intended to be avoided and in what contexts, as well as how to avoid certain things; I think simply "keeping out commercial entities" won't do (except perhaps for such things like e.g. indexing services, which can choose not to link to them).
  - jmclnx 5mo ago
    TLC (tender loving care) means a better method to avoid spam. That can be a problem with USENET.

You should checkout the Gemini Protocol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol)

by etoxin 5mo ago

You should checkout the Gemini Protocol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_(protocol)

GalaxyNova 5mo ago

And I definitely suggest writing a server or client for it! It is a really fun weekend project.

zzo38computer 5mo ago

There are also the other "small web" protocols (and some other stuff). Either way, it is still the same internet and not a new one, and still uses TCP/IP and DNS (although not HTTP/HTML). (That does not mean that it is not worth anything, though.)

hntiz 5mo ago

This was my first thought when reading the title. I've spent the last month using chawan browser, which has a Gemini layer. And it's generally just a lot of fun to mix old web 1.0 layers with a new one.

jmclnx 5mo ago

Yes and it is cell phone friendly. I moved my site to gemini a couple of years ago. Maintenance is trivial compared to the WEB. There is also gopher and USENET, but on cells it can be hard. But the largest issue is the users attraction to "bright and shiny". I think no matter what comes I fear it will end up on the same path as now. Gemini has the ability to avoid enshitification, but it is still not attracting users like www. Anyway alternatives exist but they need some TLC and a method to keep out commercial entities.

zzo38computer 5mo ago
Gopher and Gemini can both work on many kind of devices; having a monochrome display, or the differences in input (e.g. having numbered lines works OK, especially since both require links to be on a line by itself, unlike HTML), etc, without the author of the document needing to worry about such things like that. In both cases text entry might sometimes be needed so is not ideal but still it is possible. What is "TLC" meaning here? Furthermore, for the purpose of keeping out commercial entities, it would be necessary to have the details of what is intended to be avoided and in what contexts, as well as how to avoid certain things; I think simply "keeping out commercial entities" won't do (except perhaps for such things like e.g. indexing services, which can choose not to link to them).
- jmclnx 5mo ago
  TLC (tender loving care) means a better method to avoid spam. That can be a problem with USENET.