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Same. Last week, my boss, Chief Data and Analytics Officer, dumped an AI-generated proposal (~7 pages) on how to structure semantic layer on top of our dbt mode

Same. Last week, my boss, Chief Data and Analytics Officer, dumped an AI-generated proposal (~7 pages) on how to structure semantic layer on top of our dbt models. As the Data Engineering lead, I had to read it and found a few glaring issues; left a lot of comments asking him for details where it's lacking; and proposed a few of my ideas (the path I think we should take without over complicating everything unnecessarily--esp. in the beginning). Yesterday, one of my coworkers (Senior Dir. of Research Ops) shared with me another obviously AI-generated 5 page draft of an SOP on how to reintegrate old metrics (in the legacy SQL Server environment) into the Azure SQL while keeping everything running smoothly. She's not the most technical person, so it obviously is reflected in the doc generated. I think we will all become AI-output-reviewers eventually. Not sure how long I can keep doing this though because the volume of materials that need reviewing seems to be growing really quickly these days....

LPisGood 5mo ago
Why not ask your AI to review their AI slop? It feels like a new age version of “that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” Basically, “that which can be sent without thought can be responded to without thought.”
- jadar 5mo ago
  That’s been my experience. If I send something generated with AI to a colleague, then I get something generated with AI back. Fair enough.
- walrus01 5mo ago
  > Why not ask your AI to review their AI slop? If you want to be insulting about it, use a locally hosted "small" AI (under 6GB size on disk GGUF file, Q4 quantized or worse, so quite "stupid"), set to a high temperature value, no thinking mode, with a system prompt instructing it to fire off a rapid response in an absurdist writing style.
- tacostakohashi 4mo ago
  I also use this strategy of mutually assured AI slop, with a no-first-use policy. I'll happily respond to AI slop PRs with AI slop code reviews / comments.
jadar 5mo ago
Starting to wonder that we’re going to start being forced to execute on an AI output instead of sharing it with other people. If you can reason yourself into a working system, you know what you’re talking about. If not, then it’s not worth taking the time to figure it out.
- cyanydeez 5mo ago
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  - javascriptfan69 5mo ago
    The what class?
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    - cyanydeez 4mo ago
      the middle manager class. The people whose job is to make other people do work. The people who fought against work from home because it devalued their contributions to an organization. The people most likely to be replaced by AI because they're not the capitalist owner and their not a individual contributor. They're the ones who lick the boot because they dont have to worry about who it's going to stomp on. They're the ones lubing up fascism, and telling us we're all overeacting.
      - jadar 4mo ago
        This seems needlessly dismissive. The management revolution in the 20th century built the companies that innovated and built the economic middle class. It's a common trope to hate on middle managers, and not all middle-managers are good middle-managers, but they do play an important role in organizations.
        cyanydeez 4mo ago
arewethereyeta 5mo ago
set your own AI-reviewer of AI content and ping pong your way to pension.
postsantum 5mo ago
Reminds me of that guy with "people skills" from Office Space movie "Why couldn't customers take the requirements to the software people?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmuI5W694o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmuI5W694o
jochem9 5mo ago
Ask them to share their prompt instead. Calls them out on their AI bs and gives a way forward to share what they actually thought.
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sixtyj 5mo ago
People will either get used to it, or we’ll start seeing automated replies like “This text was automatically generated and has not been reviewed before being sent. It’s AI garbage and I refuse to read it. Do it again. And do it better.”
isghoor 4mo ago
I have found using an llm to compress the information instead instead of reading it directly saves time. It's potentially lossy but it's not like the slop you got is going to lose much value by compressing it.

LPisGood 5mo ago

Why not ask your AI to review their AI slop? It feels like a new age version of “that which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.” Basically, “that which can be sent without thought can be responded to without thought.”

jadar 5mo ago
That’s been my experience. If I send something generated with AI to a colleague, then I get something generated with AI back. Fair enough.
walrus01 5mo ago
> Why not ask your AI to review their AI slop? If you want to be insulting about it, use a locally hosted "small" AI (under 6GB size on disk GGUF file, Q4 quantized or worse, so quite "stupid"), set to a high temperature value, no thinking mode, with a system prompt instructing it to fire off a rapid response in an absurdist writing style.
tacostakohashi 4mo ago
I also use this strategy of mutually assured AI slop, with a no-first-use policy. I'll happily respond to AI slop PRs with AI slop code reviews / comments.

jadar 5mo ago

Starting to wonder that we’re going to start being forced to execute on an AI output instead of sharing it with other people. If you can reason yourself into a working system, you know what you’re talking about. If not, then it’s not worth taking the time to figure it out.

cyanydeez 5mo ago
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- javascriptfan69 5mo ago
  The what class?
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  - cyanydeez 4mo ago
    the middle manager class. The people whose job is to make other people do work. The people who fought against work from home because it devalued their contributions to an organization. The people most likely to be replaced by AI because they're not the capitalist owner and their not a individual contributor. They're the ones who lick the boot because they dont have to worry about who it's going to stomp on. They're the ones lubing up fascism, and telling us we're all overeacting.
    - jadar 4mo ago
      This seems needlessly dismissive. The management revolution in the 20th century built the companies that innovated and built the economic middle class. It's a common trope to hate on middle managers, and not all middle-managers are good middle-managers, but they do play an important role in organizations.
      - cyanydeez 4mo ago

arewethereyeta 5mo ago

set your own AI-reviewer of AI content and ping pong your way to pension.

postsantum 5mo ago

Reminds me of that guy with "people skills" from Office Space movie "Why couldn't customers take the requirements to the software people?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmuI5W694o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkmuI5W694o

jochem9 5mo ago

Ask them to share their prompt instead. Calls them out on their AI bs and gives a way forward to share what they actually thought.

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sixtyj 5mo ago

People will either get used to it, or we’ll start seeing automated replies like “This text was automatically generated and has not been reviewed before being sent. It’s AI garbage and I refuse to read it. Do it again. And do it better.”

isghoor 4mo ago

I have found using an llm to compress the information instead instead of reading it directly saves time. It's potentially lossy but it's not like the slop you got is going to lose much value by compressing it.