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Closed source IDEs are if anything the norm: Visual Studio, Android Studio, XCode, IntelliJ, CLion, PyCharm, etc... Even in the "fancy text editor" category thi

Closed source IDEs are if anything the norm: Visual Studio, Android Studio, XCode, IntelliJ, CLion, PyCharm, etc... Even in the "fancy text editor" category things like Sublime were always popular enough.

coder543 5mo ago
Closed source? IntelliJ: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community PyCharm: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/master/python#intellij-platform-open-source-repository-pycharm https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/master/... Android Studio: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/tools/adt/idea/+/refs/heads/mirror-goog-studio-master-dev#android-studio https://android.googlesource.com/platform/tools/adt/idea/+/r... Yes, they might offer extended proprietary editions/plugins in addition, but the IDEs themselves are open source.
- orsorna 5mo ago
  None of these are the "norm". The IDEs OC mentioned all have a much larger install base.
  - lstodd 5mo ago
    Do all of those installed on my various machines for the express purpose of a last resort of building some obscure crap about once a couple years count? Because of course I have them installed.. somewhere. And of course I wouldn't imagine using that crap daily.
  - StrLght 5mo ago
    [citation needed] IDEs made by JetBrains are huge. At this point, they're basically the standard option for several JVM languages.
    - bigbuppo 5mo ago
      You can't expect the average person on HN to admit to using a JVM-based language. That would mean they write boring business software rather than cool ad surveillance tech.
      - EddieRingle 5mo ago
        I'm always taken aback a little when I read through HN and see how little mind share Kotlin and its ecosystem has here. JetBrains has done a pretty good job of creating something that can fill many different niches (especially considering they're not one of the giant tech companies with virtually unlimited budgets), but it seems people don't even realize it exists, for whatever reason. It doesn't even need to run on a JVM in many cases, if that's some sort of barrier.
- popinman322 5mo ago
  Oh, this is great! I've filed bugs with JetBrains before and had them take months getting to my ticket, often with multiple hand-offs between team members; being able to provide a potential fix should make the process much faster.
htrp 5mo ago
isn't vscode open source?
- not_a9 5mo ago
  Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code are different beasts.
gessha 5mo ago
You’re not coding in Vim?!?! /s
creationcomplex 5mo ago
Zed is open source

coder543 5mo ago

Closed source? IntelliJ: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community PyCharm: https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/master/python#intellij-platform-open-source-repository-pycharm https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community/tree/master/... Android Studio: https://android.googlesource.com/platform/tools/adt/idea/+/refs/heads/mirror-goog-studio-master-dev#android-studio https://android.googlesource.com/platform/tools/adt/idea/+/r... Yes, they might offer extended proprietary editions/plugins in addition, but the IDEs themselves are open source.

orsorna 5mo ago
None of these are the "norm". The IDEs OC mentioned all have a much larger install base.
- lstodd 5mo ago
  Do all of those installed on my various machines for the express purpose of a last resort of building some obscure crap about once a couple years count? Because of course I have them installed.. somewhere. And of course I wouldn't imagine using that crap daily.
- StrLght 5mo ago
  [citation needed] IDEs made by JetBrains are huge. At this point, they're basically the standard option for several JVM languages.
  - bigbuppo 5mo ago
    You can't expect the average person on HN to admit to using a JVM-based language. That would mean they write boring business software rather than cool ad surveillance tech.
    - EddieRingle 5mo ago
      I'm always taken aback a little when I read through HN and see how little mind share Kotlin and its ecosystem has here. JetBrains has done a pretty good job of creating something that can fill many different niches (especially considering they're not one of the giant tech companies with virtually unlimited budgets), but it seems people don't even realize it exists, for whatever reason. It doesn't even need to run on a JVM in many cases, if that's some sort of barrier.
popinman322 5mo ago
Oh, this is great! I've filed bugs with JetBrains before and had them take months getting to my ticket, often with multiple hand-offs between team members; being able to provide a potential fix should make the process much faster.

htrp 5mo ago

isn't vscode open source?

not_a9 5mo ago
Visual Studio and Visual Studio Code are different beasts.

gessha 5mo ago

You’re not coding in Vim?!?! /s

creationcomplex 5mo ago

Zed is open source