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This TOTALLY ORGANIC movement to suddenly please think about the children with required age verification in software makes me sick. Whoever is behind this need

This TOTALLY ORGANIC movement to suddenly please think about the children with required age verification in software makes me sick. Whoever is behind this needs to be exposed, tarred, and feathered.

CamperBob2 5mo ago
It's pretty well understood to be Meta, isn't it?
- NotPractical 5mo ago
  Does anyone have a citation for this that wasn't written by Claude? It wouldn't surprise me, but I refuse to look through AI slop to check the accuracy of the report.
  - Cider9986 5mo ago
    It was written by Claude, the question is if it's accurate.
- inetknght 5mo ago
  Meta and the spooks, yeah
- nl 5mo ago
  Not as simple as that. Meta's well know campaign was actually to make the app stores (and maybe OSes) responsible for age verification, not apps. Google and Apple campaigned to make apps responsible for it.
- userbinator 5mo ago
  Big Tech in general.
mtoner23 5mo ago
The kids are very fucked up tho by the internet in our pockets. I'm Not sure that id on OS is the solution. But we should be trying something
- DJBunnies 5mo ago
  Parenting problems require parenting solutions.
  - CJefferson 5mo ago
    There are so many things where we don’t do that. There are laws against giving children so many dangerous things, because you can’t watch them constantly outside the house, and honest I think unrestricted internet is worse for a child than alcohol. I’m not saying this is the right answer, but pretending it’s just a parental problem seems oversimplifying.
    - chii 5mo ago
      > it’s just a parental problem seems oversimplifying. how/why did children survive all those generations ago where these dangerous things have existed, and all of a sudden, parents are now powerless and unable to parent?
      - Mashimo 5mo ago
        Well for one they did not have access to 4k 60 fps incest porn at a moments notice in your pocket. You had to go to a special store where an adult checked your age. But I guess the better option would be to give parents the propper tools. For example every OS could have the option to set up a child account, that gives the age range to the app store / website the user visits. And the app store owner and website owner (of a certain size? Not sure) have to implement it. Just like store owners can't sell alcohol or porn mags to underage customers.
        tardedmeme 5mo ago
        That's literally precisely what this bill does.
      - CJefferson 5mo ago
        Seriously? They didn't survive, they died: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041714/united-kingdom-all-time-child-mortality-rate/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041714/united-kingdom-a...
tomhow 5mo ago
Please don't fulminate or use all-caps on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- declan_roberts 5mo ago
  Message received!
  - tomhow 5mo ago
    Great, thanks!

This TOTALLY ORGANIC movement to suddenly please think about the children with required age verification in software makes me sick. Whoever is behind this needs to be exposed, tarred, and feathered.

CamperBob2 5mo ago

It's pretty well understood to be Meta, isn't it?

NotPractical 5mo ago
Does anyone have a citation for this that wasn't written by Claude? It wouldn't surprise me, but I refuse to look through AI slop to check the accuracy of the report.
- Cider9986 5mo ago
  It was written by Claude, the question is if it's accurate.
inetknght 5mo ago
Meta and the spooks, yeah
nl 5mo ago
Not as simple as that. Meta's well know campaign was actually to make the app stores (and maybe OSes) responsible for age verification, not apps. Google and Apple campaigned to make apps responsible for it.
userbinator 5mo ago
Big Tech in general.

mtoner23 5mo ago

The kids are very fucked up tho by the internet in our pockets. I'm Not sure that id on OS is the solution. But we should be trying something

DJBunnies 5mo ago
Parenting problems require parenting solutions.
- CJefferson 5mo ago
  There are so many things where we don’t do that. There are laws against giving children so many dangerous things, because you can’t watch them constantly outside the house, and honest I think unrestricted internet is worse for a child than alcohol. I’m not saying this is the right answer, but pretending it’s just a parental problem seems oversimplifying.
  - chii 5mo ago
    > it’s just a parental problem seems oversimplifying. how/why did children survive all those generations ago where these dangerous things have existed, and all of a sudden, parents are now powerless and unable to parent?
    - Mashimo 5mo ago
      Well for one they did not have access to 4k 60 fps incest porn at a moments notice in your pocket. You had to go to a special store where an adult checked your age. But I guess the better option would be to give parents the propper tools. For example every OS could have the option to set up a child account, that gives the age range to the app store / website the user visits. And the app store owner and website owner (of a certain size? Not sure) have to implement it. Just like store owners can't sell alcohol or porn mags to underage customers.
      - tardedmeme 5mo ago
        That's literally precisely what this bill does.
    - CJefferson 5mo ago
      Seriously? They didn't survive, they died: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041714/united-kingdom-all-time-child-mortality-rate/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/1041714/united-kingdom-a...

tomhow 5mo ago

Please don't fulminate or use all-caps on HN. The guidelines make it clear we're trying for something better here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

declan_roberts 5mo ago
Message received!
- tomhow 5mo ago
  Great, thanks!