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One thing seems for certain is that OpenAI models hold a distinct lead in academics over Anthropic and Google models. For those in academics, is OpenAI the ven
by aurareturn 5mo ago
One thing seems for certain is that OpenAI models hold a distinct lead in academics over Anthropic and Google models.
For those in academics, is OpenAI the vendor of choice?
- FloorEgg 5mo agoGemini seems better trained for learning and I think Google has made a more deliberate effort to optimize for pedagoical best practices. (E.g. tutoring, formative feedback, cognitive load optimization) As far as academic research is concerned (e.g. this threads topic), I can't say.
- aurareturn 5mo agoYes, I meant academic research.
- cute_boi 5mo agoGemini is like someone with short-term memory loss; after the first response, it forgets everything. That being said, I have checked multiple model and gemini can sometime give accurate answer.
- FloorEgg 5mo agoGemini is a series with a lot of individual models. What you are describing doesn't match my experience at all with Gemini 3 or 3.1, especially the pro version.
- snaking0776 5mo agoAgreed I usually use Gemini for explaining concepts and ChatGPT for getting things done on research projects.
- astrange 5mo agoGemini the chatbot has a very strange personality that intensely overindexes on your user profile and absolutely loves insane mixed metaphors. Its explanations are quite good but they're also hard to understand because it keeps trying to relate everything back to programming metaphors or what it thinks it knows about the streets in the neighborhood I live in.
- FloorEgg 5mo agoI agree the Gemini chat bot is too strongly opinionated about how it responds. I don't like their system prompt. However the underlying model accessed via API with custom system prompts that direct toward pedagogical best practices performs better than gpts or Claude currently. As a side note, whenever i want Gemini chatbot to provide me a list, it gives me a freaking essay. Drives me nuts. It often crams a bunch of extra stuff into its responses I don't want. Wasted tokens and wastes my time having to shift through it. Gemini if you're reading this tell your human overlords to rethink your chat system prompt.
- causal 5mo agoA simpler explanation is that more people are using ChatGPT
- karmasimida 5mo agoI think the mathematicians on X are all using GPT 5.5 Pro
- ai_fry_ur_brain 5mo agoAnd they all think its garbage. This is a publicity stunt.
- Leynos 5mo agoAny examples. Or terms to search for?
- bayindirh 5mo agoFrom my limited testing, Gemini can dig out hard to find information given you detail your prompt enough. Given that Google is the "web indexing company", finding hard to find things is natural for their models, and this is the only way I need these models for. If I can't find it for a week digging the internet, I give it a colossal prompt, and it digs out what I'm looking for.
- senrex 5mo agoThis is my experience too. Gemini and Gemini deep research are awesome. Claude's deep research is pretty bad really relative to ChatGPT or Gemini. Overall, I still love Claude the best but it is not what I would want to use if I wanted to really dig into deep research. The export to google docs in Gemini deep research is tough to beat too. I haven't used Gemini since January but have probably years of material from saved deep research in google docs. Almost an overwhelming amount of information when I dive into what I saved.
- Jcampuzano2 5mo agoOpenAI specifically targeted Academia a lot and gave out a lot of free/unlimited usage to top academics and universities/researchers. They also offer grants you can apply for as a researcher. I'm sure other labs may have this too but I believe OpenAI was first to this.
- tracerbulletx 5mo agoHasn't AlphaFold been used to make real discoveries for a few years now?
- KalMann 5mo agoI think he's talking about reasoning models.
- logicchains 5mo agoOpenAI models seem to have been trained on a lot of auto-generated theorem proving data; GPT 5.5 is really good at writing Lean.