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Unless you can somehow provide some arguments against it, I feel like you're the one who is trying to cargo-cult stuff here. Say what you will with proper reas

Unless you can somehow provide some arguments against it, I feel like you're the one who is trying to cargo-cult stuff here. Say what you will with proper reasoning or arguments if you feel compelled, tired reddit-commentary like that helps no one.

johnnyanmac 5mo ago
> Unless you can somehow provide some arguments against it, We're year 4 into this discussion and camps have only gotten more bifrucated. There's no 1-1 discussion to have about this as of now, at least not before the crash. Your only hope in such discourse is not trying to convince the other party how wrong they are, but appealing to an as of yet undecided party. Be it with reason, or simply pointing out how absurd some comments sound to the average person.
- embedding-shape 5mo ago
  > Your only hope in such discourse is not trying to convince the other party how wrong they are I don't care about convincing anyone, the ones I reply to or others, but if you take the time to leave a comment, at least make it something to read and think about instead of soundbites like "This is astrology for devs", it's plain boring to read and makes HN worse.
  - johnnyanmac 5mo ago
    >I don't care about convincing anyone That's fine. Others will care for you. >it's plain boring to read and makes HN worse. I chuckled at the joke. Surprising amount of layers to it. Though I never strove to be a comic nor writer, that kind of terse, compact punch makes me envy those of such literary talent.
    - embedding-shape 5mo ago
      > I chuckled at the joke. Surprising amount of layers to it. What joke?
keeganpoppen 5mo ago
i legitimately cannot divine what you are saying at all with this. there are so many dangling antecedents and modifiers that it is completely impossible. and i say this out of a genuine desire to understand what your argument is, knowing full well that i likely disagree with it.
- embedding-shape 5mo ago
  Alright, let me explain, hopefully simpler: GP made told us their experience with working with LLMs, and some pointers to what they found to be working. The comment I replied to just says "This is astrology for devs" which basically is a cheap putdown without any reasoning nor arguments for why the commentator believes so. My comment is urging them to actually participate in the discussion, not just post their soundbite they thought of in five seconds, so HN as a whole can remain good instead of devolving into reddit (which is a tale as old as HN, I know). Hopefully it's understandable now, and hopefully you don't disagree :)
  - beepbooptheory 5mo ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills
    - satvikpendem 5mo ago
      Indeed, with the corollary of, please don't write Reddit-tier comments on HN either, then one wouldn't have to say it's turning into Reddit.
      - beepbooptheory 5mo ago
        Two wrongs don't make a right, as they teach us as children.
    - embedding-shape 5mo ago

johnnyanmac 5mo ago

> Unless you can somehow provide some arguments against it, We're year 4 into this discussion and camps have only gotten more bifrucated. There's no 1-1 discussion to have about this as of now, at least not before the crash. Your only hope in such discourse is not trying to convince the other party how wrong they are, but appealing to an as of yet undecided party. Be it with reason, or simply pointing out how absurd some comments sound to the average person.

embedding-shape 5mo ago
> Your only hope in such discourse is not trying to convince the other party how wrong they are I don't care about convincing anyone, the ones I reply to or others, but if you take the time to leave a comment, at least make it something to read and think about instead of soundbites like "This is astrology for devs", it's plain boring to read and makes HN worse.
- johnnyanmac 5mo ago
  >I don't care about convincing anyone That's fine. Others will care for you. >it's plain boring to read and makes HN worse. I chuckled at the joke. Surprising amount of layers to it. Though I never strove to be a comic nor writer, that kind of terse, compact punch makes me envy those of such literary talent.
  - embedding-shape 5mo ago
    > I chuckled at the joke. Surprising amount of layers to it. What joke?

keeganpoppen 5mo ago

i legitimately cannot divine what you are saying at all with this. there are so many dangling antecedents and modifiers that it is completely impossible. and i say this out of a genuine desire to understand what your argument is, knowing full well that i likely disagree with it.

embedding-shape 5mo ago
Alright, let me explain, hopefully simpler: GP made told us their experience with working with LLMs, and some pointers to what they found to be working. The comment I replied to just says "This is astrology for devs" which basically is a cheap putdown without any reasoning nor arguments for why the commentator believes so. My comment is urging them to actually participate in the discussion, not just post their soundbite they thought of in five seconds, so HN as a whole can remain good instead of devolving into reddit (which is a tale as old as HN, I know). Hopefully it's understandable now, and hopefully you don't disagree :)
- beepbooptheory 5mo ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html > Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills
  - satvikpendem 5mo ago
    Indeed, with the corollary of, please don't write Reddit-tier comments on HN either, then one wouldn't have to say it's turning into Reddit.
    - beepbooptheory 5mo ago
      Two wrongs don't make a right, as they teach us as children.
  - embedding-shape 5mo ago