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> Those adults who met the 150 minute a week guideline on exercise experienced a modest 8-9% reduction in cardiovascular risk 30%+ reduction from 10 hours a we

> Those adults who met the 150 minute a week guideline on exercise experienced a modest 8-9% reduction in cardiovascular risk 30%+ reduction from 10 hours a week of exercise sounds ideal, but 9% isn't nothing.

alsetmusic 5mo ago
> 10 hours a week of exercise Honestly, only a hypochondriac or a narcissist would consider 10h/w acceptable. Everyone is too busy trying to stay alive. The number only makes sense if you're a body-builder or an influencer who trades on appearance.
- ndr 5mo ago
  Evolution didn't spend millions of years so we could sit 8 hours a day and slouch through the rest.
- bryanlarsen 5mo ago
  10h/week of moderate exercise should be straight forward. moderate exercise includes stuff like cleaning and other chores, playing with your kids, walking to the corner store, et cetera.
  - jere 5mo ago
    I don't think those count as "moderate to vigorous" exercise, at least for most of the time you're doing any of them.
    - nickburns 5mo ago
      Consider the speed/vigor with which one does something, whatever it might be. It can be quite the range.
    - bryanlarsen 5mo ago
      The study specifically includes walking in their list of exercises. You probably do want a mix of exercises -- 90 minutes of vigorous exercise a week is a standard recommendation, but 10h a week of vigorous exercise is probably contraindicated for the average 57 year old in the study. Walking is good exercise for anybody who is out of shape.
      - Fire-Dragon-DoL 5mo ago
        Walking as moderate exercise is not "just walking" though. You need sustained speed
- syedkarim 5mo ago
  I don't think 10 hours per week is unreasonable or impossible. And I don't see why you need to be a hypochondriac or narcissist to prioritize physical activities. The article does not define the required level of exertion, but I assume things like biking, ping-pong/pickleball, soccer, etc all count. A lot of physical activity can be cheap, though it is more challenging in the winter.
bojan 5mo ago
Luckily because of the AI we'll all be able to do more in less time, so those 10 hours will be easy to find. Jokes aside, 10 hours a week is quite something. Good that they mention that 2-3 hours is also already beneficial.
jimbokun 5mo ago
I’m honestly struggling to figure out how I would fit 2 hours of cardio into my daily routine.
- nemomarx 5mo ago
  Up and down your stairs at home, walking to shops or work, or dedicated gym / biking / walk time before bed is basically it. If you have a tight schedule that can be very hard and if you live in the wrong type of housing it's also harder unfortunately
- pimterry 5mo ago
  It's lower than it sounds: this time includes even relatively gentle exercise (a brisk walk) and although it's not explicit here most other uses of similar metrics I've seen generally count hard cardio minutes as 2x, e.g. the NHS guidelines (https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/physical-activity-guidelines-for-adults-aged-19-to-64/ https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/physical-activity-guid...) this references are 150 mins moderate exercise or 75 mins vigorous.
  - Fire-Dragon-DoL 5mo ago
    Does lifting weights count as vigorous though? Or strictly cardio? Because if you need to fit 560 minutes of cardio and then also fit weight lifting 3 times a week that's a lot of time working out
    - nickburns 5mo ago
      > Does lifting weights count as vigorous though? In my own experience, no. Strictly cardio. The number of squats you'd have to do to constitue even five minutes of vigorous activity is practicably impossible. Lifting weights could certainly count/classify as moderate activity though, just without as much 'bang for your buck' as dedicated aerobic exercise.
    - jerlam 5mo ago
      It would depend on how high your heart rate goes and stays during lifting weights, because everyone lifts weights differently. I would say that it's not likely based on my own personal experience, and seeing others' time ratios for lifting vs resting.

alsetmusic 5mo ago

> 10 hours a week of exercise Honestly, only a hypochondriac or a narcissist would consider 10h/w acceptable. Everyone is too busy trying to stay alive. The number only makes sense if you're a body-builder or an influencer who trades on appearance.

ndr 5mo ago
Evolution didn't spend millions of years so we could sit 8 hours a day and slouch through the rest.
bryanlarsen 5mo ago
10h/week of moderate exercise should be straight forward. moderate exercise includes stuff like cleaning and other chores, playing with your kids, walking to the corner store, et cetera.
- jere 5mo ago
  I don't think those count as "moderate to vigorous" exercise, at least for most of the time you're doing any of them.
  - nickburns 5mo ago
    Consider the speed/vigor with which one does something, whatever it might be. It can be quite the range.
  - bryanlarsen 5mo ago
    The study specifically includes walking in their list of exercises. You probably do want a mix of exercises -- 90 minutes of vigorous exercise a week is a standard recommendation, but 10h a week of vigorous exercise is probably contraindicated for the average 57 year old in the study. Walking is good exercise for anybody who is out of shape.
    - Fire-Dragon-DoL 5mo ago
      Walking as moderate exercise is not "just walking" though. You need sustained speed
syedkarim 5mo ago
I don't think 10 hours per week is unreasonable or impossible. And I don't see why you need to be a hypochondriac or narcissist to prioritize physical activities. The article does not define the required level of exertion, but I assume things like biking, ping-pong/pickleball, soccer, etc all count. A lot of physical activity can be cheap, though it is more challenging in the winter.

bojan 5mo ago

Luckily because of the AI we'll all be able to do more in less time, so those 10 hours will be easy to find. Jokes aside, 10 hours a week is quite something. Good that they mention that 2-3 hours is also already beneficial.

jimbokun 5mo ago

I’m honestly struggling to figure out how I would fit 2 hours of cardio into my daily routine.

nemomarx 5mo ago
Up and down your stairs at home, walking to shops or work, or dedicated gym / biking / walk time before bed is basically it. If you have a tight schedule that can be very hard and if you live in the wrong type of housing it's also harder unfortunately
pimterry 5mo ago
It's lower than it sounds: this time includes even relatively gentle exercise (a brisk walk) and although it's not explicit here most other uses of similar metrics I've seen generally count hard cardio minutes as 2x, e.g. the NHS guidelines (https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/physical-activity-guidelines-for-adults-aged-19-to-64/ https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/exercise/physical-activity-guid...) this references are 150 mins moderate exercise or 75 mins vigorous.
- Fire-Dragon-DoL 5mo ago
  Does lifting weights count as vigorous though? Or strictly cardio? Because if you need to fit 560 minutes of cardio and then also fit weight lifting 3 times a week that's a lot of time working out
  - nickburns 5mo ago
    > Does lifting weights count as vigorous though? In my own experience, no. Strictly cardio. The number of squats you'd have to do to constitue even five minutes of vigorous activity is practicably impossible. Lifting weights could certainly count/classify as moderate activity though, just without as much 'bang for your buck' as dedicated aerobic exercise.
  - jerlam 5mo ago
    It would depend on how high your heart rate goes and stays during lifting weights, because everyone lifts weights differently. I would say that it's not likely based on my own personal experience, and seeing others' time ratios for lifting vs resting.