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GIMP gets the work done. I've never had an issue I couldn't address with its tools, but it's clear the UI was crafted by coders. I'm glad for this approach.

reaperducer 5mo ago
I completely agree. Every few years I give GIMP a shot, and every time I give up because it's completely inscrutable. Adobe is evil, and Pixelmator lacks features, but at least you can figure out how to use them in short order.
- Shared404 5mo ago
  Check out Krita, it's a much easier lift for someone used to photoshop ime. At least, if you're doing digital art. Not as full featured for editing of photo's.
  - hootz 5mo ago
    Digital artists use Photoshop for painting/drawing? I thought Photoshop was made for photo composites.
    - bananamogul 5mo ago
      Photoshop is widely used for painting/drawing, yes. Hooking up a Wacom or similar tablet is very common. Granted, a lot of this has moved to iPad + apple pencil since that combo was released, but Photoshop is still heavily used. Of course, you can run Photoshop on iPad, too.
- olavgg 5mo ago
  Every time I give Photoshop a chance I give completely up, the thing doesn't even start on neither Fedora or Ubuntu and I have no interest in configuring Wine for this. GIMP is the least painful way to get the job done. I have been using it for over 20 years, and it has been a pain-free experience. That GIMP is bad is just as wrong as the people who say Java is bad. But you know what's even worse, people that use Illustrator to create SVG's for the web. Inkscape creates proper readable SVG's at 5KB, compared to 50MB SVG's I get from Illustrator experts.
  - charcircuit 5mo ago
    Try on Windows 11 or macOS. https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/desktop/get-started/technical-requirements-installation/adobe-photoshop-on-desktop-technical-requirements.html https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/desktop/get-started/techni...
- Induane 5mo ago
  I actually find the opposite. I don't actually think either of us are wrong, it probably comes down to what we got started with. I love that in Gimp layers can have totally different canvas sizes, and I prefer it's foreground select tool. But most of all, any comparison is going to be silly. Photoshop has lots of amazing features and in sure is better in a technical comparison to Gimp in many ways. A lot of times the best tool for the job is the one that works great for you.
cspeterson 5mo ago
And I'm glad to see such a simple approach to making it usable. Not a fork creating whole new problems to worry about, just reconfiguring the UI and now Bob's your uncle. Now if GIMP would just stop rewriting the file on each run, making it difficult to keep in revision control....
echelon 5mo ago
1. GIMP needs a total UX overhaul 2. GIMP needs RAW support, precision support, and a better data backbone 3. GIMP needs a rename. It's both a sex kink term [1] (not to yuck anyone's yums) and a slur term for disabled people [2] 4. Gen AI will probably disrupt all of this anyway. [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8S3ZHQ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8S3ZHQ [2] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gimp https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gimp
- enthdegree 5mo ago
  Your point number 3 is very irritating to read.
  - DANmode 5mo ago
    Why?
- 867-5309 5mo ago
  and what do you propose for the Great Internet Mersenne Prime search?
  - lynndotpy 5mo ago
    How would any of this apply to GIMPS? I think you might be equivocating these on their names, but it's simply not the same. People complain about the name of GIMP because it causes them problems when trying to use it in work and school. But nobody is complaining about GIMPS name, right? It's not even software.
- mghackerlady 5mo ago
  1. I don't disagree 2. GIMP isn't a raw editor, use darktable or rawtherapee 3. Poor naming decisions do not warrant a change this late, people know GIMP 4. Keep dreaming
- Asooka 5mo ago
  Eh, every term for disabled people becomes a slur. Moron->idiot->retard (the latter being so unacceptable in modern speech it is labelled by the kids as "the hard r"). But you are right, we should simply not use terms for disabled people in software names. I propose "Thirty Years and Still Cannot Draw a Circle" or the hip short name :no-entry-sign: emoji.
duskdozer 5mo ago
>it's clear the UI was crafted by coders Is it? Why? Looking at the screenshot on this, it just seems like a few items were moved around a bit, presumably because that's where Photoshop has them.
- hnlmorg 5mo ago
  They were talking about GIMPs default UI.
  - duskdozer 5mo ago
    Yeah, I was too, I'll clarify. The photoGIMP UI doesn't seem that meaningfully different than the default UI to me, to where the idea that it is then not "crafted by coders" doesn't seem to make sense to me.
zobzu 5mo ago
i really don't mind the GIMP UI but then again I used it for a very long time, so perhaps that's why (same for PS, I'm a 1.0 user). On the flip side, I'd love a darktable that is closer the lightroom's UI, for similar reasons. Somehow, i find it more difficult to get the same speed and flow with darktable.

reaperducer 5mo ago

I completely agree. Every few years I give GIMP a shot, and every time I give up because it's completely inscrutable. Adobe is evil, and Pixelmator lacks features, but at least you can figure out how to use them in short order.

Shared404 5mo ago
Check out Krita, it's a much easier lift for someone used to photoshop ime. At least, if you're doing digital art. Not as full featured for editing of photo's.
- hootz 5mo ago
  Digital artists use Photoshop for painting/drawing? I thought Photoshop was made for photo composites.
  - bananamogul 5mo ago
    Photoshop is widely used for painting/drawing, yes. Hooking up a Wacom or similar tablet is very common. Granted, a lot of this has moved to iPad + apple pencil since that combo was released, but Photoshop is still heavily used. Of course, you can run Photoshop on iPad, too.
olavgg 5mo ago
Every time I give Photoshop a chance I give completely up, the thing doesn't even start on neither Fedora or Ubuntu and I have no interest in configuring Wine for this. GIMP is the least painful way to get the job done. I have been using it for over 20 years, and it has been a pain-free experience. That GIMP is bad is just as wrong as the people who say Java is bad. But you know what's even worse, people that use Illustrator to create SVG's for the web. Inkscape creates proper readable SVG's at 5KB, compared to 50MB SVG's I get from Illustrator experts.
- charcircuit 5mo ago
  Try on Windows 11 or macOS. https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/desktop/get-started/technical-requirements-installation/adobe-photoshop-on-desktop-technical-requirements.html https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/desktop/get-started/techni...
Induane 5mo ago
I actually find the opposite. I don't actually think either of us are wrong, it probably comes down to what we got started with. I love that in Gimp layers can have totally different canvas sizes, and I prefer it's foreground select tool. But most of all, any comparison is going to be silly. Photoshop has lots of amazing features and in sure is better in a technical comparison to Gimp in many ways. A lot of times the best tool for the job is the one that works great for you.

cspeterson 5mo ago

And I'm glad to see such a simple approach to making it usable. Not a fork creating whole new problems to worry about, just reconfiguring the UI and now Bob's your uncle. Now if GIMP would just stop rewriting the file on each run, making it difficult to keep in revision control....

echelon 5mo ago

1. GIMP needs a total UX overhaul 2. GIMP needs RAW support, precision support, and a better data backbone 3. GIMP needs a rename. It's both a sex kink term [1] (not to yuck anyone's yums) and a slur term for disabled people [2] 4. Gen AI will probably disrupt all of this anyway. [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8S3ZHQ https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I8S3ZHQ [2] https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gimp https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/gimp

enthdegree 5mo ago
Your point number 3 is very irritating to read.
- DANmode 5mo ago
  Why?
867-5309 5mo ago
and what do you propose for the Great Internet Mersenne Prime search?
- lynndotpy 5mo ago
  How would any of this apply to GIMPS? I think you might be equivocating these on their names, but it's simply not the same. People complain about the name of GIMP because it causes them problems when trying to use it in work and school. But nobody is complaining about GIMPS name, right? It's not even software.
mghackerlady 5mo ago
1. I don't disagree 2. GIMP isn't a raw editor, use darktable or rawtherapee 3. Poor naming decisions do not warrant a change this late, people know GIMP 4. Keep dreaming
Asooka 5mo ago
Eh, every term for disabled people becomes a slur. Moron->idiot->retard (the latter being so unacceptable in modern speech it is labelled by the kids as "the hard r"). But you are right, we should simply not use terms for disabled people in software names. I propose "Thirty Years and Still Cannot Draw a Circle" or the hip short name :no-entry-sign: emoji.

duskdozer 5mo ago

>it's clear the UI was crafted by coders Is it? Why? Looking at the screenshot on this, it just seems like a few items were moved around a bit, presumably because that's where Photoshop has them.

hnlmorg 5mo ago
They were talking about GIMPs default UI.
- duskdozer 5mo ago
  Yeah, I was too, I'll clarify. The photoGIMP UI doesn't seem that meaningfully different than the default UI to me, to where the idea that it is then not "crafted by coders" doesn't seem to make sense to me.

zobzu 5mo ago

i really don't mind the GIMP UI but then again I used it for a very long time, so perhaps that's why (same for PS, I'm a 1.0 user). On the flip side, I'd love a darktable that is closer the lightroom's UI, for similar reasons. Somehow, i find it more difficult to get the same speed and flow with darktable.