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I'll just keep repeating this: There are three options: 1. AI owned by everyone 2. No AI 3. AI owned by billionaires If you can make the masses fight for 2
by lowbloodsugar 5mo ago
I'll just keep repeating this:
There are three options:
1. AI owned by everyone
2. No AI
3. AI owned by billionaires
If you can make the masses fight for 2 instead of 1, then you guarantee that you don't get 1. If instead, the masses fight for 1, they've got a chance of getting it. You present AI as a false dichotomy: no AI or AI for billionaires. But 2 is a fantasy. There will be AI.
Any of us arguing for (1) get shouted down by the very people who would benefit most from it. The masses do the job of the billionaires.
Most utopian science fiction has AI doing the work and humans leading a life of leisure (e.g. Culture novels). Dystopian futures have AI keeping the rabble under control (Neil Asher's Owner Trilogy, Elysium). Time to choose folks.
- JumpCrisscross 5mo ago4. AI owned by someone else. Unless you’re in America, China, the UK, France or Israel, it’s this or No. 2.
- jaredcwhite 5mo agoYeah I'll pick two, thanks.
- shimman 5mo agoIt's hilarious how the elites don't understand the politics of rejection.
- heddycrow 5mo agoI wish that those who support #2 looked a lot less like #3. For that matter, I wish those who were pro-AI were more strictly supportive of #1.
- prettyblocks 5mo ago#2 is not really an option though. It's more like #1 or #3.
- xscott 5mo agoI agree with your logic, but you should replace 2 with "AI used by governments only". The haters would have more luck getting rid of nuclear weapons than putting the AI cat back in the bag. Governments will use it for surveillance. Think "sentiment analysis" to make sure you're not a terrorist.
- mycall 5mo ago#2 is impossible now that oss models are readily available and nobody would know you are using them.
- throwawa14223 5mo ago#1 seems like the worst possible dystopia. We should shoot for #2 and have #3 as a fallback. The Culture is the worst dystopia I am capable of imagining.
- wvenable 5mo agoWhat does #1 actually mean in practical terms? Collective ownership of a giant data center and all the CPUs, GPUs, and DRAM needed to do AI?
- euroderf 5mo agoThis is where the researchers and the essayists should be working. What does it look like when there's a significant tax at every value-add (hey let's call it a value-added tax!) that goes into a big beautiful kitty that funds UBI and general nutrition & housing ?
- wvenable 5mo agoWhat?
- Octoth0rpe 5mo agoThe opposite I'd say, completely open models/weights with some level of government/civil support for ongoing training (through universities? government labs?), but the infrastructure to run models is private and entirely commoditized/interchangeable with highly competitive pricing from multiple private providers.
- lofaszvanitt 5mo ago4. regulation... well, that's a no go in the US. So what is the 5th option?
- xscott 5mo agoI predict it will get regulated in the US, and that it will lead to regulatory capture. Solving absolutely NONE of the problems people complain about while providing NONE of the benefits AI could bring to society.
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- GolfPopper 5mo agoIf there are no billionaires, you don't have to worry about option 3.