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The peaceful daughters mother's and sisters protest you think happened resulting in thousands of people killed were really men with machine guns backed by the C

by ipaddr 5mo ago

The peaceful daughters mother's and sisters protest you think happened resulting in thousands of people killed were really men with machine guns backed by the CIA and Israel trying to give Trump justification for invading.

Helloworldboy 5mo ago
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_DeadFred_ 5mo ago
That is not what the videos that came out showed. Of course, now Iran has shudown the internet so information can not get in out. Spin harder. The truth is after the start of this war Iran has been importing Shia militias members from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan to be their enforcers because the Islamic regime does not have legitimacy with the Iranian populace.
- ipaddr 5mo ago
  Trump literally said this about the CIA and Israel. It looks like you fell for it. Here's the real story with details on how they were able to fool you and the media you rely on. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-how-doctored-images-from-iran-misled-media-outlets/a-76396118 https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-how-doctored-images-from-ir... You can't blindly accept everything being fed to you.
  - _DeadFred_ 5mo ago
    The Islamic Republic government themselves stated over 3,000 deaths. Here are some of those killed/ These are all CIA agents? https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... https://www.ohchr.org/en/media-advisories/2026/01/human-rights-council-adopts-resolution-extending-mandates-fact-finding https://www.ohchr.org/en/media-advisories/2026/01/human-righ...
    - ipaddr 5mo ago
      Which nobody disagreed with. Where we disagreed was around women and children protesting and getting killed vs armed men with machine guns. You got tricked with AI photos and so did the media. My link shows how you guys got fooled and the technical details around that. Care to double down?
      - _DeadFred_ 5mo ago
        According to the Iranian regime all killed were Iranian: "It described all those killed as “children of this soil” and affirmed President Masoud Pezeshkian’s commitment to protecting and vindicating their rights." And even the regime could only figure out how to label a subset of them as 'rioters and terrorists': "A government statement issued in late January indicated that over 600 of the deceased were rioters and terrorists, with the remainder being civilians and security forces." Leaving 2400 being random civilians. (if we believe the government list is actually a complete list). https://en.isna.ir/news/1404111307163/Iran-publishes-list-of-people-killed-in-early-January-riots https://en.isna.ir/news/1404111307163/Iran-publishes-list-of... You are incorrect. There are many women/children listed as killed while they were attending protests that Iran admits to having attacked and made games about on national TV: https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-government-releases-list-of-names-and-state-tv-insults-those-killed/ https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove... A small subset of those murdered by the Islamic Regime at protests: https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_January_2026_Iranian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_Jan... You realize that those dead people on the government list leave behind families/friends/social media profiles that all know/show they just wanted more freedom?
        ipaddr 5mo ago
        There are confirming 6,000 and 146 under 18 according to your links. Which doesn't suggest families it suggests teens probably mostly teen boys. Again you are blindly using links without reading them or using critical thinking.
throw310822 5mo ago
I'd be curious to know what people think would happen if the US decided they want their government gone. The most obvious strategy is to start internet and social media campaigns first (of which the US have complete control), and second step is to fund and arm "rebels" who are willing to conquer the state from inside and hand it over to the US on a silver plate. Complete deniability, no official war declaration, no domestic debate. And if the targeted country blocks the internet or shoots the "rebels", then the entire Western press can denounce that government as an illiberal, ferocious entity that censors information and kills its own citizens.

by ipaddr 5mo ago

Helloworldboy 5mo ago

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_DeadFred_ 5mo ago

That is not what the videos that came out showed. Of course, now Iran has shudown the internet so information can not get in out. Spin harder. The truth is after the start of this war Iran has been importing Shia militias members from Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan to be their enforcers because the Islamic regime does not have legitimacy with the Iranian populace.

ipaddr 5mo ago
Trump literally said this about the CIA and Israel. It looks like you fell for it. Here's the real story with details on how they were able to fool you and the media you rely on. https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-how-doctored-images-from-iran-misled-media-outlets/a-76396118 https://www.dw.com/en/fact-check-how-doctored-images-from-ir... You can't blindly accept everything being fed to you.
- _DeadFred_ 5mo ago
  The Islamic Republic government themselves stated over 3,000 deaths. Here are some of those killed/ These are all CIA agents? https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... https://www.ohchr.org/en/media-advisories/2026/01/human-rights-council-adopts-resolution-extending-mandates-fact-finding https://www.ohchr.org/en/media-advisories/2026/01/human-righ...
  - ipaddr 5mo ago
    Which nobody disagreed with. Where we disagreed was around women and children protesting and getting killed vs armed men with machine guns. You got tricked with AI photos and so did the media. My link shows how you guys got fooled and the technical details around that. Care to double down?
    - _DeadFred_ 5mo ago
      According to the Iranian regime all killed were Iranian: "It described all those killed as “children of this soil” and affirmed President Masoud Pezeshkian’s commitment to protecting and vindicating their rights." And even the regime could only figure out how to label a subset of them as 'rioters and terrorists': "A government statement issued in late January indicated that over 600 of the deceased were rioters and terrorists, with the remainder being civilians and security forces." Leaving 2400 being random civilians. (if we believe the government list is actually a complete list). https://en.isna.ir/news/1404111307163/Iran-publishes-list-of-people-killed-in-early-January-riots https://en.isna.ir/news/1404111307163/Iran-publishes-list-of... You are incorrect. There are many women/children listed as killed while they were attending protests that Iran admits to having attacked and made games about on national TV: https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-government-releases-list-of-names-and-state-tv-insults-those-killed/ https://www.en-hrana.org/day-thirty-six-of-the-protests-gove... A small subset of those murdered by the Islamic Regime at protests: https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74-a478-f9d719519b00 https://www.bbc.com/persian/resources/idt-c005edd8-7204-4c74... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_January_2026_Iranian_protests https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children_killed_during_the_Jan... You realize that those dead people on the government list leave behind families/friends/social media profiles that all know/show they just wanted more freedom?
      - ipaddr 5mo ago
        There are confirming 6,000 and 146 under 18 according to your links. Which doesn't suggest families it suggests teens probably mostly teen boys. Again you are blindly using links without reading them or using critical thinking.

throw310822 5mo ago

I'd be curious to know what people think would happen if the US decided they want their government gone. The most obvious strategy is to start internet and social media campaigns first (of which the US have complete control), and second step is to fund and arm "rebels" who are willing to conquer the state from inside and hand it over to the US on a silver plate. Complete deniability, no official war declaration, no domestic debate. And if the targeted country blocks the internet or shoots the "rebels", then the entire Western press can denounce that government as an illiberal, ferocious entity that censors information and kills its own citizens.