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This is the whole point and the reason for the lofty valuations. Get everyone to shift their work to be dependent on these tooling, to the point they can't imag
by asdff 5mo ago
This is the whole point and the reason for the lofty valuations. Get everyone to shift their work to be dependent on these tooling, to the point they can't imagine working in any other way, and then raise prices. Tale as old as enterprise software.
- dgellow 5mo agoActually that wasn’t the plan, no
- pitched 5mo agoThe moment a group accepts VC money, this becomes the plan
- dgellow 5mo agoI was at stainless since the very beginning, I can tell you it wasn’t the plan
- vincnetas 5mo agoYeah, but they now have new owner who might be having different plan.
- mmcclure 5mo agoThe new owner's plan is...to sunset the paid product immediately and give customers access to tooling to be able to continue generating SDKs on their own. From Stainless's post: As we focus on Claude Platform capabilities and connecting agents to APIs, we’ll be winding down all hosted Stainless products, including our SDK generator. Starting today, new signups, projects, and SDKs will not be available. If you’re a Stainless customer, visit app.stainless.com/transition for help transitioning from Stainless-managed products to other options. As always, you own the SDKs you’ve generated to date, and have full rights to modify and extend them however you wish. As a customer, all-in-all, we were pretty pleased with the outcome. Stainless was a great partner to us, even in "the end," and I'm really happy for the team.
- renegade-otter 5mo agoThe plan can change with the right amount of money. Just ask OpenAI.
- throawayonthe 5mo agothe plan isn't really up to the recipient of VC money lol
- cdata 5mo agoWith respect, you were manipulated (either by founders or by investors). Startups leverage employees' pro-social leanings to make them feel good about a fundamentally anti-social enterprise.
- solenoid0937 5mo agoHN cracks me up sometimes. Anthropic is anti-social? Stainless devs don't want their pre IPO equity to do well? Okay. I very much doubt you would apply your expectation of altruism to yourself!
- kuboble 5mo agoBut I think that doesn't matter. If you intend to sell it to the highest bidder eventually then what difference does it make what was your plan? If a business had real values then they would never sell out (see lichess).
- rockinghigh 5mo agoWhy wouldn't getting more customers the plan? Anthropic doesn't acquire companies to have a lower market share. There is clearly a consolidation and a rush to get as much of the developer market as possible.
- 999900000999 5mo agoExactly. The goal of any VC by definition is to return a positive return on investment. I guess you might have a handful of exceptions, funds that are environmentally conscious, but profit remains paramount.
- iamkrazy 5mo agoYou forgot this: "trust me bro".
- dgellow 5mo agoAs opposed to what? Wild speculation people are making without any insider knowledge?
- deaton 5mo agoTale as old as the word "startup" even. Uber/Lyft did it with taxis. DoorDash did it with food delivery. You run at a loss for years while destroying your legacy competition by just outlasting them, then once you have cornered the market you squeeze.
- dgellow 5mo agoI understand the cynism but it’s not the case here. Stainless isn't a case of blitzscaling or running a loss for years to destroy the competition. The motto of the company is polished and robust and we invested a lot into generating what we think are the highest quality SDKs available. We could have shipped things way, way faster if the focus on design and quality wasn’t such an essential part of the development process
- deaton 5mo agoNo but Anthropic and OpenAI are very much trying to use their positions to destroy everyone's ability to do things without their product, make AI essential, and then jack prices. Thats the only way this becomes profitable.
- bornfreddy 5mo agoIt's not about Stainless, it's about Anthropic.
- shimman 5mo agoDon't you feel unqualified to make such statements since you have a obvious bias and extreme financial $tak€ here? Did we all lose are critical thinking during COVID or something?
- dgellow 5mo agoObviously not, I do feel more than qualified given that I actively contributed to developing the company. None of what I wrote in the comment you responded to is a secret or is based on my personal judgement, we’ve been open about our values
- zackify 5mo agoand this is why i use pi.dev and hotswap models and have no reliance on a single provider