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I'm getting really tired of the enshittification cycle. Learning about android verification and captcha changes recently has been another big frustration point.
by 0x262d 5mo ago
I'm getting really tired of the enshittification cycle. Learning about android verification and captcha changes recently has been another big frustration point. I moved to android as a more open alternative to apple just a few years ago, and to bitwarden from lastpass around the same time. I would like to just have these infrastructural services work well and quietly without thinking about them for many years. Do I really have to put up with this happening faster and faster for the rest of capitalism? (I think so)
- hobonation 5mo agoVendors doing a rug-pull isn't just capitalism. China is adding DRM to AM radio: old receivers won't work. Heck, Soviet WWII ration cards no longer give turmips.
- pessimizer 5mo agoThey're not doing it to increase margin. "Enshittification" or "rug-pulls" aren't when things get worse or things change, they're when the conditions that were used to attract an audience are changed in order to extract more margin after that audience is captured. The larger exampls to compare them to would be "dumping." Dump subsidized, tariff-free corn in Mexico to make it unprofitable to farm corn in Mexico, and after all of the Mexican farmers go bust, buy their land and raise the price of corn to infinity while cheaping out on the quality of seed and handling. Enshittification. Rug-pull.
- throawayonthe 5mo agouh, by DRM you mean Digital Radio Mondiale[0], an open digital radio broadcasting standard? sure analog receivers won't work, but hardly a rugpull lol [0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Radio_Mondiale https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Radio_Mondiale
- BobbyTables2 5mo agoYeah? That has to be the worst possible acronym for an open thing.
- zeroonetwothree 5mo agoBitwarden hasn’t “enshittified” anything. It’s all entirely speculative
- smallmancontrov 5mo agoDoes a bear shit in the woods?
- wafflemaker 5mo agoInteresting, where are you from? Where does this proverb come from? I know this proverb as (translating from Polish): You're asking the boar if he's shitting in the forest.
- chuckadams 5mo agoIt's an extremely common phrase in the US, along with "Is the Pope Catholic?" Sometimes the two phrases are humorously mixed together.
- alluro2 5mo agoI've never heard it mixed (not from US)... "Is bear a Catholic?" doesn't seem very funny. But a notion that everyone knows how Pope is regularly shitting in the woods absolutely is :)
- Jailbird 5mo agoWe say "are bears Catholic?" when in more polite company and we can't get away with asking if the Pope shits in the woods :)
- smallmancontrov 5mo agoI don't know if it is exactly the same proverb -- it isn't about objecting to the bear (or boar) shitting in the woods, it is about our ability to infer that the bear shits in the woods even if we have never seen it happen. We know the bear shits, we know the bear lives in the woods, even people who have lived in the city their entire life and have never seen bear shit can infer that the bear shits in the woods. In context, my intended meaning was that software enshittification works the same way: we don't have to see a particular private equity firm enshittify a particular piece of software to know that they do enshittify software, just as we do not have to see a bear shit in the woods to know that the bear does shit in the woods.
- Barrin92 5mo ago>Do I really have to put up with this happening faster and faster for the rest of capitalism? (I think so) no, if you relax the qualifier "without thinking" slightly and are okay with thinking for a few hours. There's so many off-the-shelf open source solutions now to just throw on a 5 bucks VPS, it costs you less time and money than switching or the premium plan of most of these individual services.