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Speed cameras or not, what you described will always happen. I would prefer no evil instead of a tiny evil however.
by somehnguy 5mo ago
Speed cameras or not, what you described will always happen. I would prefer no evil instead of a tiny evil however.
- sevenzero 5mo agoLikely yea, but with them at least some idiots too stupid to drive get some degree of punishment.
- new_account_100 5mo agoI don't think punishment benefits society in any way whatsoever.
- sevenzero 5mo agoIt's the balance society needs for crime. If punishment doesn't benefit society what do we have to do with criminals in your opinion?
- ToValueFunfetti 5mo agoI get where you're coming from here- I also don't see justice as an inherent good. If somebody kills somebody else, the death penalty will only increase the number of victims by one. It does nothing to undo the crime. Karma isn't real. But you have to think about second order effects. The knowledge that you may be punished afterwards serves as a disincentive for doing the wrong thing now. It may be preferable to convince everyone that they would be punished without actually doing the punishment, but it's not possible. Apart from the death penalty, punishments also can directly teach an individual not to commit the crime again.
- new_account_100 5mo agoJustice is distinct from punishment. Someone who is wronged should be made whole, but I don't think society benefits from violating the violator.
- ToValueFunfetti 5mo agoRight, I just responded to that claim. Do you have any thoughts on the disincentivizing effects of punishment? Or, if not, we can be more specific. Imprisonment means that an individual is separated from society, making it much harder for them to commit crimes. Most crime is done by young men, and time spent in prison contributes to age. Issuing a 10-year sentence means directly reducing the number of crimes that occur. Is that not beneficial to society? Or if a CFO embezzles $10M, should society be indifferent to whether taxpayers make the company whole or the CFO does it?
- cortesoft 5mo agoIn return for everyone giving up privacy. I need a lot bigger of a return if I am going to give up privacy.
- somehnguy 5mo agoI don’t believe the juice (some speeding tickets) is worth the squeeze (surveillance dragnet covering the country).