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> And was he 5x more productive in those 30d than a years worth of a dev making 200k/yr? He was. When it comes to marketing. This is was most people don't unde

> And was he 5x more productive in those 30d than a years worth of a dev making 200k/yr? He was. When it comes to marketing. This is was most people don't understand. Peter is a great marketing guy who got hired because of a hype vision, not because he is an outstanding engineer. Think of it like OpenAI hiring MrBeast of the coding world.

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Iolaum 5mo ago
I 'd say he is an outstanding engineer as well. He may favor output over security more than outstanding engineers at 2025 but in the 2026 world what he does is impressive. And with OpenAI's resources he has turned OpenClaw's security woes around. Latest versions are much more secure than 2 months ago.
- sdevonoes 5mo ago
  It’s not impressive. He’s a celebrity. Celebrities are not impressive
  - liamwire 5mo ago
    What? Many celebrities are so specifically because they're impressive. Athletes and musicians being the two most obvious examples.
    - wiseowise 5mo ago
      Not this one.
- lxgr 5mo ago
  It’s much worse than that. Openclaw cosplays security, which is much more dangerous than just outright defining the security model as “this is new and risky, better sandbox this thing thoroughly at a different layer”. It sucks at both security and usability as a result (all the vibe-designed security layers are constantly getting in my way).
12arwlaz 5mo ago
That is a good comparison. He has the charm and output quality of Mr Beast, but also his marketing prowess. Now let's wait until the moderators clean up the wrongthink. He also has censors on his side.
simianwords 5mo ago
_yawn_ I keep hearing "hype vision". What part of openclaw is hype? It literally works and the adoption has gotten better. We really need better standards for disagreement.
- beepbooptheory 5mo ago
  What is a standard for a disagreement?
- bigstrat2003 5mo ago
  Every part of it is hype, because it does nothing useful.
  - shepherdjerred 5mo ago
    Plenty of people find it useful, but maybe it's not useful for you

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Iolaum 5mo ago

I 'd say he is an outstanding engineer as well. He may favor output over security more than outstanding engineers at 2025 but in the 2026 world what he does is impressive. And with OpenAI's resources he has turned OpenClaw's security woes around. Latest versions are much more secure than 2 months ago.

sdevonoes 5mo ago
It’s not impressive. He’s a celebrity. Celebrities are not impressive
- liamwire 5mo ago
  What? Many celebrities are so specifically because they're impressive. Athletes and musicians being the two most obvious examples.
  - wiseowise 5mo ago
    Not this one.
lxgr 5mo ago
It’s much worse than that. Openclaw cosplays security, which is much more dangerous than just outright defining the security model as “this is new and risky, better sandbox this thing thoroughly at a different layer”. It sucks at both security and usability as a result (all the vibe-designed security layers are constantly getting in my way).

12arwlaz 5mo ago

That is a good comparison. He has the charm and output quality of Mr Beast, but also his marketing prowess. Now let's wait until the moderators clean up the wrongthink. He also has censors on his side.

simianwords 5mo ago

_yawn_ I keep hearing "hype vision". What part of openclaw is hype? It literally works and the adoption has gotten better. We really need better standards for disagreement.

beepbooptheory 5mo ago
What is a standard for a disagreement?
bigstrat2003 5mo ago
Every part of it is hype, because it does nothing useful.
- shepherdjerred 5mo ago
  Plenty of people find it useful, but maybe it's not useful for you