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I'm starting to long for the age after AI. When the generative euphoria has settled and all outputs are formally verified based on exquisite architectures and s
by nialse 5mo ago
I'm starting to long for the age after AI. When the generative euphoria has settled and all outputs are formally verified based on exquisite architectures and standards.
- senordevnyc 5mo agoWill never happen, for the exact reason that we’ve almost never done that for human output either.
- sitkack 5mo agoit is required now, or all civilization collapses.
- platinumrad 5mo agoYou're going to have to expand on this one.
- dghlsakjg 5mo agoThey are expressing the idea that AI is so effective that it will make human work redundant necessitating a decoupling of resource allocation as a reward for performing work. I don’t agree, but that’s the thinking
- sitkack 5mo agoNo, that quality drops so low across the board due to flaws in AI coding that they only way to address all these flaws is to have mechanically checked proofs that the code actually works.
- dghlsakjg 5mo agoMy reply was meant for another tangent. No idea how it ended up on this thread. Whoops
- sph 5mo agoCivilization collapses unless people stop being short-sighted and greedy, trying to cut corners whenever possible? I know which outcome I'd put my money on.
- saltyoldman 5mo agoThere was not a renaissance to move back to Assembly when Java sucked. Instead more Java developers were created.
- nialse 5mo agoAnother argument for less human-like AI then, I guess.
- stego-tech 5mo agoThat’s literally just software though.
- nialse 5mo agoKeen observation. Maybe automation will come for the AI as well?
- stego-tech 5mo agoMore that our attempts at using probabilistic machines to produce predictably deterministic outputs (AI -> process output) was always a fool’s errand; we should be using that probability engine to produce software that creates repeatable and predictable outcomes, instead (AI -> software, software -> process output). The AI tool isn’t wrong, our use of it is. See the glut of OpenClaw users effectively deploying it as a glorified linter and Stack Overflow copier but without actually creating the sort of reusable artifacts (or consumer spending from comparatively high wages) that approach yielded from human developers.
- rvz 5mo agoWell a 2008 and a 2000 level financial crash is required for this. It is always during euphoric levels of delusion such events then occur. ...and it also needs more so-called AI companies present in the wreckage in this crash. AI psychosis is undeniably real.
- gizajob 5mo agoThe entire stock market is undergoing AI psychosis.
- DiscourseFan 5mo agoThey are being developed, but it takes over a decade for this to happen normally
- 999900000999 5mo agoThis is the new normal. AI will continue to reduce the need for human workers until a Universal Basic Income is established. At the end of the day robots can do the vast vast majority of jobs better and faster. If not now, very soon. I only worry our economic systems won’t keep up
- risyachka 5mo agoHumans can already have 4 hour work week without productivity loss. But I only see mass layoffs and those who are working - are working longer and harder then before.
- techpression 5mo agoMost CEOs in my feed are convinced that AI makes people the equivalent of entire departments. AI should make your life easier, but instead it’s the opposite for a lot of people in the work force, which makes me really sad.
- gizajob 5mo agoThe exact same thing was meant to happen when the desktop computer became prevalent. Then the internet. Look at us now.
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- xantronix 5mo agoBecause of the concerns you cite, I think working out the basic economic systems and incentives for paying people is a much more pressing concern than building magnificent machinery that we don't even own. There has been no effort on their end to demonstrate good faith nor to uphold their end of the social contract, which is why it's in our hands to demand the fundamentals to lead a life of dignity.
- Sharlin 5mo agoI think that’s called "hopium". Or wishful thinking, in less trendy language.
- sph 5mo ago> When [...] all outputs are formally verified based on exquisite architectures and standards and we all live in a green utopia of flying cars and peace upon the world.
- mvanbaak 5mo agoif all the resources spent in useless wars were poured into working towards this goal, we would be there for some time already
- sph 5mo agoSure, but we should probably plan for what’s actually going to happen
- teraflop 5mo agoI like to think, (it has to be!) of a cybernetic ecology where we are free of our labors and joined back to nature, returned to our mammal brothers and sisters, and all watched over by machines of loving grace. -- Richard Brautigan (1967)
- nunez 5mo agoCan't come fast enough
- dnnddidiej 5mo agoI like how you haven't wagered which exquisite architectures and standards. I am sure we will all agree on what they are and follow them the same way :)
- nialse 5mo agoThe people were longing for utopia, just not the same utopia.