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I think the wikipedia page downplays how often it's used to try to hurt or annoy cyclists, pedestrians, or anyone who looks liberal/foreign. It's not just anti

I think the wikipedia page downplays how often it's used to try to hurt or annoy cyclists, pedestrians, or anyone who looks liberal/foreign. It's not just anti environmentalists who do it, it's a general MAGA thing.

KennyBlanken 5mo ago
"Try" to hurt? Half-burned diesel particulate is absolutely cancerous, it can enter the bloodstream and cross the blood-brain barrier and they're generating clouds of it, probably thousands of times more than what a modern 18 wheeler puts out in half an hour of driving. And they're doing it to someone breathing hard. If I sprayed some cancerous chemical in someone's face, I'd be arrested within the hour. I'd be on the regional news, even. The double standards around motor vehicles never cease to amaze.
- stavros 5mo ago
  Wtf people are doing this on purpose? What's wrong with people?
  - curt15 5mo ago
    Chest-thumping
    - llm_nerd 5mo ago
      Can you provide a citation on this? Sounds like worthless conjecture. Please provide a arXiv claim to back up your post or delete it from HN.
  - mmh0000 5mo ago
    The "people" doing this are exactly the type of people you'd expect... Just the first thing that came up in a youtube search, there are thousands more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYPMbLO4pAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYPMbLO4pAY
    - stavros 5mo ago
      Wait, this isn't something that they configure the truck to do all the time? They can turn it on and off? I thought this was some shitty way of being "special", like a loud exhaust, but being able to turn it on and off to gas people is downright evil.
      - mmh0000 5mo ago
        It's not a "switch" per-se (though some of the kits have realtime tuning switches to make more/less smoke on demand). It's a purposely poorly-turned engine + accelerator control. TL;DR: poor turning, and floor it (high RPM). This video gives a pretty good overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miTnnJ7xMv8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miTnnJ7xMv8
        stavros 5mo ago
        Ah, even worse, you can gas people and your engine pollutes normally as well. I didn't think people would be this shitty, but here we are.
  - UltraSane 5mo ago
    A nasty combo of sadism and tribalism and stupidity.
- kortilla 5mo ago
  > If I sprayed some cancerous chemical in someone's face, I'd be arrested within the hour. I'd be on the regional news, even. No you wouldn’t. You’ve just described 2nd hand smoke which you can easily get hit with walking down any sidewalk in the US.
  - marysol5 5mo ago
    Doing an intentional act, vs a passive outcome is two differing things
    - kortilla 5mo ago
      Blowing smoke in someone’s face can be very intentional and nobody would ever make news or be arrested for doing it to some passerby
      - array_key_first 5mo ago
        Blowing smoke in someone's face is very little smoke in practice, because air is a thing. Also, realistically, you're not getting cancer from someone blowing smoke in your face. Smokers get cancer because they smoke tens of thousands of cigarettes. You won't get cancer because you kind of smoked .1 cigarettes. Also, the majority of lifetime smokers don't even get lung cancer.
        defrost 5mo ago
        Largely because there's so many other tobacco and nicotine related diseases to get instead: A full range of scientific evidence, extending from the molecular level to whole populations, supports the conclusion that secondhand smoke causes disease. The scope of this evidence is enormous, and encompasses not only the literature on secondhand smoke but also relevant findings on active smoking and on the toxicity of individual tobacco smoke components. * The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke: A Report of the Surgeon General. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK44321/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK44321/ 356 links to supporting studies and works
pembrook 5mo ago
I’m sorry, but while I’m sure there’s a few people on earth who have intentionally done this…to imagine its happening around you all the time vs people being just lazy about issues on their vehicle…is quite frankly lunacy. It’s always fascinating to run across the MAGA-style conspiracy theories on the far left, they’re ironically very similar. “I get coal rolled every time in step on my bike!”
- pigeons 5mo ago
  Happens to me every time the car rental place gives me a hybrid.
- vel0city 5mo ago
  I see people rolling coal every day of my life here in North Texas. Often multiple different people on a 20+ minute drive.
- array_key_first 5mo ago
  I have had people tell me to my face that they try to run cyclists off the road. You know, just casual attempted murder. That's what people have told me. You are seriously underestimating how much some people hate cyclists.

KennyBlanken 5mo ago

"Try" to hurt? Half-burned diesel particulate is absolutely cancerous, it can enter the bloodstream and cross the blood-brain barrier and they're generating clouds of it, probably thousands of times more than what a modern 18 wheeler puts out in half an hour of driving. And they're doing it to someone breathing hard. If I sprayed some cancerous chemical in someone's face, I'd be arrested within the hour. I'd be on the regional news, even. The double standards around motor vehicles never cease to amaze.

stavros 5mo ago
Wtf people are doing this on purpose? What's wrong with people?
- curt15 5mo ago
  Chest-thumping
  - llm_nerd 5mo ago
    Can you provide a citation on this? Sounds like worthless conjecture. Please provide a arXiv claim to back up your post or delete it from HN.
- mmh0000 5mo ago
  The "people" doing this are exactly the type of people you'd expect... Just the first thing that came up in a youtube search, there are thousands more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYPMbLO4pAY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYPMbLO4pAY
  - stavros 5mo ago
    Wait, this isn't something that they configure the truck to do all the time? They can turn it on and off? I thought this was some shitty way of being "special", like a loud exhaust, but being able to turn it on and off to gas people is downright evil.
    - mmh0000 5mo ago
      It's not a "switch" per-se (though some of the kits have realtime tuning switches to make more/less smoke on demand). It's a purposely poorly-turned engine + accelerator control. TL;DR: poor turning, and floor it (high RPM). This video gives a pretty good overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miTnnJ7xMv8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miTnnJ7xMv8
      - stavros 5mo ago
        Ah, even worse, you can gas people and your engine pollutes normally as well. I didn't think people would be this shitty, but here we are.
- UltraSane 5mo ago
  A nasty combo of sadism and tribalism and stupidity.
kortilla 5mo ago
> If I sprayed some cancerous chemical in someone's face, I'd be arrested within the hour. I'd be on the regional news, even. No you wouldn’t. You’ve just described 2nd hand smoke which you can easily get hit with walking down any sidewalk in the US.
- marysol5 5mo ago
  Doing an intentional act, vs a passive outcome is two differing things
  - kortilla 5mo ago
    Blowing smoke in someone’s face can be very intentional and nobody would ever make news or be arrested for doing it to some passerby
    - array_key_first 5mo ago
      Blowing smoke in someone's face is very little smoke in practice, because air is a thing. Also, realistically, you're not getting cancer from someone blowing smoke in your face. Smokers get cancer because they smoke tens of thousands of cigarettes. You won't get cancer because you kind of smoked .1 cigarettes. Also, the majority of lifetime smokers don't even get lung cancer.
      - defrost 5mo ago
        Largely because there's so many other tobacco and nicotine related diseases to get instead: A full range of scientific evidence, extending from the molecular level to whole populations, supports the conclusion that secondhand smoke causes disease. The scope of this evidence is enormous, and encompasses not only the literature on secondhand smoke but also relevant findings on active smoking and on the toxicity of individual tobacco smoke components. * The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke: A Report of the Surgeon General. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK44321/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK44321/ 356 links to supporting studies and works

pembrook 5mo ago

I’m sorry, but while I’m sure there’s a few people on earth who have intentionally done this…to imagine its happening around you all the time vs people being just lazy about issues on their vehicle…is quite frankly lunacy. It’s always fascinating to run across the MAGA-style conspiracy theories on the far left, they’re ironically very similar. “I get coal rolled every time in step on my bike!”

pigeons 5mo ago
Happens to me every time the car rental place gives me a hybrid.
vel0city 5mo ago
I see people rolling coal every day of my life here in North Texas. Often multiple different people on a 20+ minute drive.
array_key_first 5mo ago
I have had people tell me to my face that they try to run cyclists off the road. You know, just casual attempted murder. That's what people have told me. You are seriously underestimating how much some people hate cyclists.