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I don't think there's anything to apologize for. Buying a professional tool with tens of thousands of hours of potential runtime and 1000lb+ of torque is waste

I don't think there's anything to apologize for. Buying a professional tool with tens of thousands of hours of potential runtime and 1000lb+ of torque is wasteful. A Ryobi tool will realistically last for the many decades you need it for and do everything you ask of it. Lower price points doesn't just mean something is junk. It can also be engineering efficiency.

nubinetwork 5mo ago
> A Ryobi tool will realistically last for the many decades you need it for and do everything you ask of it Until you buy one of their lawn mowers and the SLA batteries die after a year...
- stronglikedan 5mo ago
  you can cherrypick similar stories from any company
- lesuorac 5mo ago
  What year? I got one like 5(?) years ago and it was lithium. Definitely doesn't run as long as when it was new but does enough. For those of you getting a lawn mower, don't get the cheapest one you can. A 13" wide blade is uh gunna take nearly double the passes a 20" wide blade will.
  - zippyman55 5mo ago
    I got the 13” for my postage stamp lawn and it works great. 27 pounds! But I get your point on moving time.
dfxm12 5mo ago
What are the price points though? Maybe I lucked into a sale, but when I was looking at drills, all the prices were similar. Maybe Bosch was the (expensive) outlier...
massysett 5mo ago
As the saying goes, anyone can build a bridge that lasts forever. It takes an engineer to build one that lasts fifty years.
- yohannparis 5mo ago
  Excellent, I love it! It remind me of the quote from Blaise Pascale: "I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time." — source: https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2014/02/03/270680304/this-could-have-been-shorter# https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2014/02/03/270680304/this-... The idea that you need expertise and experience to produce something efficient and refined that fit perfectly the need that it fulfills.
- tim333 5mo ago
  I think the normal saying is "Anyone can build a bridge that stands, but it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands." Building a forever bridge would be challenging, especially for 5bn yrs in when the sun expands.
  - cyanydeez 5mo ago
    dont worry, this is the justifications billionairs have in ignoring modern social problems. thanks elon.
- metalman 5mo ago
  djoser's pyramid has cedar beams that still support the roof of an inner chamber, truely massive, and at something like 4000 years old are past waranty, making the few that have failed free of liability concerns, but less than 100 years later the eygyptians had shifted to all stone roofs for inner chambers in there built to last projects. The techniques and tools were used for millenia prior to the construction of the pyramids, and have been in continious use and production from those times till now.
RobotToaster 5mo ago
Are new ryobi batteries still compatible with all their old tools? I remember it used to be a big selling point that that they never changed their battery system.
- infecto 5mo ago
  Yes and IMO one of the selling points. They have upgraded the batteries over the years but still base compatibility

nubinetwork 5mo ago

> A Ryobi tool will realistically last for the many decades you need it for and do everything you ask of it Until you buy one of their lawn mowers and the SLA batteries die after a year...

stronglikedan 5mo ago
you can cherrypick similar stories from any company
lesuorac 5mo ago
What year? I got one like 5(?) years ago and it was lithium. Definitely doesn't run as long as when it was new but does enough. For those of you getting a lawn mower, don't get the cheapest one you can. A 13" wide blade is uh gunna take nearly double the passes a 20" wide blade will.
- zippyman55 5mo ago
  I got the 13” for my postage stamp lawn and it works great. 27 pounds! But I get your point on moving time.

dfxm12 5mo ago

What are the price points though? Maybe I lucked into a sale, but when I was looking at drills, all the prices were similar. Maybe Bosch was the (expensive) outlier...

massysett 5mo ago

As the saying goes, anyone can build a bridge that lasts forever. It takes an engineer to build one that lasts fifty years.

yohannparis 5mo ago
Excellent, I love it! It remind me of the quote from Blaise Pascale: "I would have written a shorter letter, but I did not have the time." — source: https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2014/02/03/270680304/this-could-have-been-shorter# https://www.npr.org/sections/13.7/2014/02/03/270680304/this-... The idea that you need expertise and experience to produce something efficient and refined that fit perfectly the need that it fulfills.
tim333 5mo ago
I think the normal saying is "Anyone can build a bridge that stands, but it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands." Building a forever bridge would be challenging, especially for 5bn yrs in when the sun expands.
- cyanydeez 5mo ago
  dont worry, this is the justifications billionairs have in ignoring modern social problems. thanks elon.
metalman 5mo ago
djoser's pyramid has cedar beams that still support the roof of an inner chamber, truely massive, and at something like 4000 years old are past waranty, making the few that have failed free of liability concerns, but less than 100 years later the eygyptians had shifted to all stone roofs for inner chambers in there built to last projects. The techniques and tools were used for millenia prior to the construction of the pyramids, and have been in continious use and production from those times till now.

RobotToaster 5mo ago

Are new ryobi batteries still compatible with all their old tools? I remember it used to be a big selling point that that they never changed their battery system.

infecto 5mo ago
Yes and IMO one of the selling points. They have upgraded the batteries over the years but still base compatibility