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Cannabis and driving? Studies reveal big risks
- cindyllm 6mo ago[dead]
- syeare 6mo agoTL;DR Nonsense "study" A study for real world risks based on a videogame, of all things? Its impossible to directly map the experience of being behind the wheel in real life to a game, and the article doesn't even mention whether it's an actual simulation (like beam.NG), game-like (as in Assetto Corsa), or plain arcade fantasy (GTA, Need for Speed) OBVIOUSLY people are gonna play games in a more fun/different way under the influence They even admit that inhaled usage showed little to no consistency in driving difference Bias disclaimer: I stopped consumption some time back
- Dr_Emann 6mo ago"Participants got behind the wheel of a driving simulator equipped with everything you’d find in a real car – from the steering wheel to the pedals and dashboard. A large touchscreen, similar to those found in newer vehicles, allows for music to play and text messages to come through. Three oversized monitors provide 180 degrees of visual coverage to create a realistic, immersive driving environment." Seems pretty clearly a simulator, they use that word several times.
- dyauspitr 6mo agoStill a simulator is not going to replicate the mind set of actually driving a vehicle. It probably helps a little bit that the participants are high, but still it’s not even close.
- vrighter 6mo agoracing drivers train on them. So I'd say they get pretty close.
- bushwart 6mo agoThe point is that there are many kinds of driving simulators. Some are better at simulating than others.
- erelong 6mo agon=1 but I see tons of distracted driving, like relatedly people still text and talk and drive and... it mostly works out ok So still probably ideal for people to aim to be perfectly sober and focused, but... we might end up "ok" in a lot of cases even if that ideal isn't achieved
- KellyCriterion 6mo agoSome weeks ago I saw a cop in her car and she was texting while rolling slowly toward the red traffic light (for sure, somehow understandable, but as a cop you shouldnt do those things in public?)
- The_President 6mo agoRisks may include: - Stopping at green lights - Dropping the doob between the seats - The Ozium can rolling out of reach - Driving thru multiple fast food venues in one trip
- stringfood 6mo agoozium reference was a nice touch - always was told that was the best for pot smoke, meanwhile it just made the room smell like weed and cherries
- The_President 6mo agoOzium Blunt scent - for decoy purposes
- jmux 6mo ago> Participants in the occasional and daily groups used their own cannabis at the doses they typically consume. > “We didn’t tell people what to use because there’s a really big continuum of how people use and how they respond to that dosage,” Brooks-Russell said, explaining that they wanted these studies to reflect how people use cannabis outside of the lab. Actually a really smart process decision - in past studies I’ve seen they always used a prescribed dose but having the participants choose makes a lot of sense
- naruhodo 6mo agoIt's not unexpected that infrequent users are more impacted by acute use. The article doesn't quantify accident risk, from what I can see. The Royal Australian College of General Practitioners (RACGP), however, actually has quantified the relative change in accident risk. [1] The table in the linked document (N/A = not available): Crash Risk Culpability Alcohol (BAC = 0.02) 1.03–1.19 1.36 Alcohol (BAC = 0.05) 1.38–1.75 2.19 Alcohol (BAC = 0.08) 2.69–2.92 3.63 Cannabis 1.11–1.42 1.20–1.42 Antidepressants 1.35–1.40 N/A Antihistamines 1.12 N/A Benzodiazepines and Z-hypnotics 1.17–2.30 1.41 Opiates 1.68–2.29 1.47 In Australia, the legal limit for Blood Alcohol Concentration when driving is 0.05. We are subject to roadside drug testing that checks for alcohol, methamphetamine, cannabis and cocaine. But not benzos, opiates or depressants, AFAIK. In almost all Australian states and territories, having a cannabis prescription is not a valid legal defence against loss of licence when a roadside test detects cannabis metabolites. The tests do not indicate impairment, only past use within the last few days. The Australian political class actively resists changing the law to be fair to medicinal cannabis patients. If the system was really fair, it would perform a field sobriety test to prove impairment. Recognising that cannabis use only increases crash risk by the same amount as a legal BAC would be a good start. [1] https://www1.racgp.org.au/getattachment/ef4cc327-723b-42c9-b3a4-904f61fcbef6/Medical-cannabis-and-driving.aspx https://www1.racgp.org.au/getattachment/ef4cc327-723b-42c9-b...
- hurril 6mo agoI don't see how anyone would even want to attempt to drive while baked.
- marysol5 6mo ago/Some/ people view Cannabis as some wonder drug, that has no negative effects whatsoever, and really play on that idea.
- jazz9k 6mo agoThese same people also wanted to keep it medicinal, so if they kill a family while under the influence, it's not counted as under the influence.
- buffington 6mo agoWhat do you mean by "same people"? Who are these people? The comment you're responding to certainly doesn't specify, but somehow you know that they're the same as the people who said whatever batshit thing you think they said. I'm prepared to be wrong though. I searched the internet for six whole minutes and found no evidence of even a single person, let alone the group of people you say exist.
- dtj1123 6mo agoBecause it's fun, and many people (myself of 15 years ago included) are fucking idiots.
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