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This is a comically self-absorbed perspective. Why are people making things with Claude Code if not because they’re motivated?

jmaw 5mo ago
Because it's "easy" (until they hit a wall) Once they hit a wall, that is where you find out whether they are motivated or not
- abalashov 5mo ago
  > Once they hit a wall, that is where you find out whether they are motivated or not Yep. That has to happen first.
abalashov 5mo ago
Because it's "easy"?
dperks 5mo ago
I think the point is that you had to be deeply curious and more of a "hacker" or "computer nerd" type to be able to figure things out. But I think the same applies to not just AI but various tools that have abstracted away the complexity of things over the years. For example, I would imagine the average person deploying some sort of web app or API today knows far less about networking and infrastructure than someone doing it 10 to 20 years ago.
- xienze 5mo ago
  Yes, exactly. I'm reminded of the articles detailing how Gen Z has fewer computer skills than previous generations because computing has become so abstracted -- turn on iPhone, tap button. "What's a directory?" -- files just kind of exist on these devices without any real notion of _where_, as far as the user knows. Stuff like that. Compare that to say 30ish years ago. If you wanted to do something as simple as play a computer game you had to know how to navigate a command line, know about device drivers, make a boot disk, etc. Users were a whole lot closer to the realities of what makes computing work. And no internet, at least as we know it now. You really had to have a certain mindset to be a developer. It's a far cry from "hey Claude make an app."
rglover 5mo ago
Knowing that genuine, disincentivized creativity is exceedingly rare (especially in the West), you can assume that the answer looks something like a carrot or a stick.
KellyCriterion 5mo ago
Because back then you had to care about the differences of e.g. 16bit vs 32bit datatypes & instructions, hardware limitations are not known to modern grown-up dev people - they think hardware is unlimited. Earlier you really had do understand what you were doing, today cou can get along with a prompt - which works great, until it doesnt. Not to blame any vibecode hobbyist here, though real application development usually required some degree of deeper understanding back then.

jmaw 5mo ago

Because it's "easy" (until they hit a wall) Once they hit a wall, that is where you find out whether they are motivated or not

abalashov 5mo ago
> Once they hit a wall, that is where you find out whether they are motivated or not Yep. That has to happen first.

abalashov 5mo ago

Because it's "easy"?

dperks 5mo ago

I think the point is that you had to be deeply curious and more of a "hacker" or "computer nerd" type to be able to figure things out. But I think the same applies to not just AI but various tools that have abstracted away the complexity of things over the years. For example, I would imagine the average person deploying some sort of web app or API today knows far less about networking and infrastructure than someone doing it 10 to 20 years ago.

xienze 5mo ago
Yes, exactly. I'm reminded of the articles detailing how Gen Z has fewer computer skills than previous generations because computing has become so abstracted -- turn on iPhone, tap button. "What's a directory?" -- files just kind of exist on these devices without any real notion of _where_, as far as the user knows. Stuff like that. Compare that to say 30ish years ago. If you wanted to do something as simple as play a computer game you had to know how to navigate a command line, know about device drivers, make a boot disk, etc. Users were a whole lot closer to the realities of what makes computing work. And no internet, at least as we know it now. You really had to have a certain mindset to be a developer. It's a far cry from "hey Claude make an app."

rglover 5mo ago

Knowing that genuine, disincentivized creativity is exceedingly rare (especially in the West), you can assume that the answer looks something like a carrot or a stick.

KellyCriterion 5mo ago

Because back then you had to care about the differences of e.g. 16bit vs 32bit datatypes & instructions, hardware limitations are not known to modern grown-up dev people - they think hardware is unlimited. Earlier you really had do understand what you were doing, today cou can get along with a prompt - which works great, until it doesnt. Not to blame any vibecode hobbyist here, though real application development usually required some degree of deeper understanding back then.