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any reason why we are using hdmi over display port?
by cute_boi 5mo ago
any reason why we are using hdmi over display port?
- saidinesh5 5mo agoThe vast majority of the TVs only come with HDMI .. not even good enough analog inputs anymore..
- 0cf8612b2e1e 5mo agoI have been told (but not confirmed) that is mandated by the HDMI mob. If you want HDMI on your TV, it cannot also have DP.
- okanat 5mo agoThis can only be true for consumer-grade stuff. Even then I just guess the manufacturers kind of cheap out. I have a dumb-ish Samsung Hotel TV / commercial TV at home. It has DP.
- MarsIronPI 5mo agoI want a TV with DP. Do you have a recommended source for where to pick up commercial TVs?
- okanat 5mo agoI live in Germany and I got mine from https://www.visunext.de/ https://www.visunext.de/
- bee_rider 5mo agoWhich is kind of funny. At least, to my mind this has associated HDMI-only with the budget option (TVs), and DP with the premium tier (monitors).
- account42 5mo agoI'm pretty sure TVs go higher in price than monitors - although professional monitors do put up a fight.
- bayesnet 5mo agoWhat really drives me nuts is smart TVs with 100mbps Ethernet connections. When I bought a tv we looked in vain for gigabit Ethernet.
- navigate8310 5mo agoIt is futile to expect the TV to be smart and support all sorts of apps and hardware only to be abandoned by the manufacturer years down the line. The only correct way to buy a TV imho is to hunt for a dumb but excellent display properties and get a streaming device such as Google TV Streamer, Apple TV or DIY x86 HTPC.
- cwel 5mo ago>DIY x86 HTPC ARM slander was not warranted
- Dylan16807 5mo agoAre there DIY Arm boards that make a good HTPC? Do they have hardware video decoding?
- ihsw 5mo agoYour best bet is going to be Raspberry Pi devices: https://github.com/blakeblackshear/frigate/discussions/18431 https://github.com/blakeblackshear/frigate/discussions/18431 You can try Googling around for bespoke products but they will almost exclusively come from China and they will be very overpriced due to the soldered RAM.
- izacus 5mo agoTVs are made with BOM of like 10$ for the SoC, so it's the cheapest crap available. Then again - none of the streaming services are streaming at anything remotely close to 100Mbps so I doubt they consider it necessary to upgrade to GbE.
- hamdingers 5mo ago
- bisby 5mo agoSome people have TVs or displays that only use HDMI. I personally wouldn't recommend HDMI if DisplayPort is available, but if HDMI is your only option, then having it work properly will be important.
- jaxefayo 5mo agoFor one, DisplayPort doesn’t support HDR output
- Gracana 5mo agoDo you mean in practice, or something? DP definitely supports HDR, and it seems to work fine for me.
- hmry 5mo agoThat can't be right. I'm reading this comment on an HDR monitor over DP right now. Don't all USB-C video outputs use DP alt mode too, with an HDMI adapter at the end? And they can do HDR.
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- funimpoded 5mo agoThe cable length limitations are also a pain in the ass for not-uncommon A/V system configurations. 6' recommended max, and the best you might get working stably if the device and cable gods smile on you is 15'. 6' is the lower edge of acceptable for just about any A/V system setup (in practice it means your devices need to be within about a meter of the screen's port[s], which is pretty close) and even 15' is still too short to be useful for, say, a projector, or a "the A/V receiver or HDMI switch is over in that cabinet, the TV is on this wall across the room" situation. HDMI goes 25'+, no problem.
- Dylan16807 5mo agoFor 4k at 60Hz, you'd need HDMI 2.0 or DP 1.2. At those speeds, both kinds of cable should be able to reach 25 feet, and I can find reputable brands selling both kinds at the length.
- simoncion 5mo ago> HDMI goes 25'+, no problem. Yep. That's likely because that's an active cable. Active DisplayPort cables exist, too. Here is one vendor selling active UHBR10 cables [0]. If you don't NEED UHBR, then you'll find your selection to be much, much larger. I've been using some Monoprice-branded 50 and 100 ft active fiber-optic HBR3 DisplayPort cables for years with no problem. [0] <https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/products/displayport-cables/ci/27494/cp/9581%2B13346%2B27492%2B27494?sort=PRICE_LOW_TO_HIGH&filters=fct_displayport-version_7951%3A2.0%7C2.1%3AREGULAR%2Cfct_length_6411%3A30ft%7C50ft%7C100ft%7C200ft%7C300ft%3AREGULAR https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/products/displayport-cables/c...>
- eikenberry 5mo agoMy monitor has 1 displayport and 2 hdmi and I have 2 computers I use with it. They can't share the displayport. All comparable monitors (last time I checked) have the same. So it'd be nice if both worked.
- ThatPlayer 5mo agoUnless you're on the absolute newest stuff with DisplayPort 2.1, HDMI 2.1 has more bandwidth than DP1.4. That'll be Nvidias 2000 through 4000 series. No DisplayPort 2.1 until the RTX 5000s. And then monitors released during this time generally do the same too. Also if you want to use it through a capture card, HDMI ones are way more common and cheaper
- esseph 5mo agoAMD Radeon 7000 and 9000 series all support DisplayPort 2.1
- account42 5mo ago6000 however does not but supports HDMI 2.1 (no yet on Linux).
- account42 5mo agoNot to mention TVs have been pretty much always been HDMI-only and they are the only realistic option for a living room sized monitor.