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EU hosting their own ops like they built the Airbus A380: Database runs in France, front end in Belgium, Operations in Spain... EU Fairness dictates they all

EU hosting their own ops like they built the Airbus A380: Database runs in France, front end in Belgium, Operations in Spain... EU Fairness dictates they all need to get a slice of the pie so this will be interesting (and by that I mean absurdly hilarious).

embedding-shape 5mo ago
Yeah, I guess we replaced globalism with Europalism, since some of the other parties who initially pushed for globalism now wants nothing to do with it anymore. Oh well, I'm looking forward to closer connections and relationships to our French and Belgian brothers and sisters :)
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- kergonath 5mo ago
  > Yeah, I guess we replaced globalism with Europalism, since some of the other parties who initially pushed for globalism now wants nothing to do with it anymore. That is a very myopic way of looking at it. Right-wing neoliberal parties were globalists and pro-EU for business reasons. Left-wing social-liberals were pro-EU for social and ideological reasons but were much more ambivalent about globalisation. Hard-right nationalists hate the EU but don’t see much of a problem with globalisation except when people are involved (exploiting them abroad, however, is fine as long as there is a buck to be made). If you’re a bit careful you’ll find opinions all over the place on both globalisation and the EU across the whole spectrum. Globalisation is more something that affect individual member states than a EU issue.
libertine 5mo ago
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SlinkyOnStairs 5mo ago
> EU hosting their own ops like they built the Airbus A380: > Database runs in France, front end in Belgium, Operations in Spain... You snark, but is this not EXACTLY how a sizeable majority of modern apps are made? Substitute in some random tech stacks, cloud providers, or buzzwords. Database runs in AWS, front end in Nuxt, Operations in Claude.
- m_mueller 5mo ago
  Also, Airbus is doing very well last I checked.
  - hk_net 5mo ago
    And moving it’s stack… https://www.heise.de/en/news/Airbus-is-looking-for-a-sovereign-EU-cloud-11122105.html https://www.heise.de/en/news/Airbus-is-looking-for-a-soverei...
Arkhaine_kupo 5mo ago
Isnt that how american contracts work? You put your Headquarters in seattle, your data center in alabama, you have your dev team in SF... every state gets a slice Like gov contracts and how they are divided is basically the largest conversation in defense contracts, they give more of a shit who will make the nails for a tank than the security parameters of the crew members
- soopypoos 5mo ago
  tank nails are so expensive though
thesquandered 5mo ago
An entire continent's sentiment shifting to pull market share away from your team is nothing to snark at, regardless of whether the first iteration works perfectly out of the box. I can guarantee you someone in Europe is smart enough to eventually get their needs sorted.
WJW 5mo ago
Like NASA rockets don't have components whose manufacture is very carefully distributed over all US states just to keep the senators happy. In any case, there are plenty of EU giants (ASML, SAP, Siemens, Alstom, Rheinmetall, etc) that are rather concentrated geographically speaking. EU fairness is more a government agency distribution thing, not for private companies.
raincole 5mo ago
I think we're going to witness a very inefficient system getting brought to work by policies alone. And I'm not even bashing EU. The closest example still working today is probably the US's Jones Act.
riccardomc 5mo ago
Better than Boeing, I guess...
elygre 5mo ago
The A380 is a fantastic airplane to ride, so if that is the end result I’m a fan!
kergonath 5mo ago
> Database runs in France, front end in Belgium, Operations in Spain... How is that worse than headquarters in New York, incorporation in Delaware, operations in California, and datacenters in Texas?
j_maffe 5mo ago
Well Airbus is doing much better than Boeing so I'm not sure what's the problem.

embedding-shape 5mo ago

Yeah, I guess we replaced globalism with Europalism, since some of the other parties who initially pushed for globalism now wants nothing to do with it anymore. Oh well, I'm looking forward to closer connections and relationships to our French and Belgian brothers and sisters :)

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kergonath 5mo ago
> Yeah, I guess we replaced globalism with Europalism, since some of the other parties who initially pushed for globalism now wants nothing to do with it anymore. That is a very myopic way of looking at it. Right-wing neoliberal parties were globalists and pro-EU for business reasons. Left-wing social-liberals were pro-EU for social and ideological reasons but were much more ambivalent about globalisation. Hard-right nationalists hate the EU but don’t see much of a problem with globalisation except when people are involved (exploiting them abroad, however, is fine as long as there is a buck to be made). If you’re a bit careful you’ll find opinions all over the place on both globalisation and the EU across the whole spectrum. Globalisation is more something that affect individual member states than a EU issue.

libertine 5mo ago

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SlinkyOnStairs 5mo ago

> EU hosting their own ops like they built the Airbus A380: > Database runs in France, front end in Belgium, Operations in Spain... You snark, but is this not EXACTLY how a sizeable majority of modern apps are made? Substitute in some random tech stacks, cloud providers, or buzzwords. Database runs in AWS, front end in Nuxt, Operations in Claude.

m_mueller 5mo ago
Also, Airbus is doing very well last I checked.
- hk_net 5mo ago
  And moving it’s stack… https://www.heise.de/en/news/Airbus-is-looking-for-a-sovereign-EU-cloud-11122105.html https://www.heise.de/en/news/Airbus-is-looking-for-a-soverei...

Arkhaine_kupo 5mo ago

Isnt that how american contracts work? You put your Headquarters in seattle, your data center in alabama, you have your dev team in SF... every state gets a slice Like gov contracts and how they are divided is basically the largest conversation in defense contracts, they give more of a shit who will make the nails for a tank than the security parameters of the crew members

soopypoos 5mo ago
tank nails are so expensive though

thesquandered 5mo ago

An entire continent's sentiment shifting to pull market share away from your team is nothing to snark at, regardless of whether the first iteration works perfectly out of the box. I can guarantee you someone in Europe is smart enough to eventually get their needs sorted.

WJW 5mo ago

Like NASA rockets don't have components whose manufacture is very carefully distributed over all US states just to keep the senators happy. In any case, there are plenty of EU giants (ASML, SAP, Siemens, Alstom, Rheinmetall, etc) that are rather concentrated geographically speaking. EU fairness is more a government agency distribution thing, not for private companies.

raincole 5mo ago

I think we're going to witness a very inefficient system getting brought to work by policies alone. And I'm not even bashing EU. The closest example still working today is probably the US's Jones Act.

riccardomc 5mo ago

Better than Boeing, I guess...

elygre 5mo ago

The A380 is a fantastic airplane to ride, so if that is the end result I’m a fan!

kergonath 5mo ago

> Database runs in France, front end in Belgium, Operations in Spain... How is that worse than headquarters in New York, incorporation in Delaware, operations in California, and datacenters in Texas?

j_maffe 5mo ago

Well Airbus is doing much better than Boeing so I'm not sure what's the problem.